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by paultopia 24 days ago
While this strategy is fine for clueless users, I suspect that it will lead to immense frustration for the ones with clues
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Exactly.

Back when I worked at Google there was an internal page someone put up that denoted what they called "the YX problem": the observation that the XY problem, applied to a sufficiently great extent, creates an environment where more productivity is lost convincing one's interlocutor that X is in fact the correct problem to solve than would be lost by chasing X and having to later pivot to Y if that turned out to be wrong.

It's extraordinarily aggravating when it happens. I really wish it was something we talked about more.

In my experience, the ones who most fervently believe they have such “clues” are often the same ones who lack them. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve encountered engineers who become indignant when someone tries to redirect them to safe, scalable, and operable ways to solve problems. What they often want is to have the problem solved their way because it would be less work for them or otherwise advance their own personal interests, regardless of the problems that doing so would create or the risks it would pose. They don’t want a discussion; they want a rubber stamp.
> because it would be less work for them or otherwise advance their own personal interests

I've seen plenty of people rationalize not wanting to learn a new thing with those words.

The thing is, this is a rationalization too. It may be true, it may also be false. The only certain thing is that they don't want to learn a new thing.

That said, this happens in small circles, where you know the context of the person asking the question. People assuming they know why a stranger is asking something tend to be wrong too.

I mean, yeah, if you’re selling someone a product it’s pretty fair for them to expect, or at least hope, that it will reduce their workload and advance their personal interests…
There’s no product being sold here. The person is trying to solve some self-described problem on his own.
Can confirm, I had a coworker doing that a while ago and it was incredibly frustrating. After going through the whole quizzing you still end up with no answer to your actual question, as if they were more interested engaging with their own process and not what you were actually asking
There's a fine line here when dealing with customers. Sometimes it works well to answer the exact question, if you can, and follow up with "Can you tell me a bit why you're asking so I can understand a bit more about the problem?" Once you tease out a bit more about how they got there, it's often possible to offer better solutions and it never feels like you blew off their original ask.
People who really have a clue add enough context in their request to understand why they are trying to do the thing in question.
People who really don't have a clue ignores the added context and answers the question that wasn't asked anyway, because they've answered that particular question before.