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by Pfhortune 41 days ago
Would be great if we could buy/drive these in the US. Funny how we have a "free market" only when it is convenient for certain interests...
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For anyone that doesn't know, then president Ronald Reagan signed a bill into law in 1988 that banned all car imports into the US unless the car is at least 25 yaers old.

Why? Because US Mercedez-Benz dealers were selling their cars at too high a price and a lot of Americans were importing them directly from Germany. So the dealers associations lobbied Congress for a ban.

Country of free markets, by the way.

This is entirely misleading and misinformation -- only those not meeting all applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS).
They're all over the place in Mexico City. It'll be interesting as these EVs start to show up along the northern and southern borders traveling within the US.
The sad reality is how politically influential it will be for Americans to take a Chinese EV from the airport to a hotel in Cancun and say, "Why don't we have this in the US?"
Saw some in southern Arizona, had to do a double-take.
That was me with Polestar like 4 years ago but really don't see many of them anymore in the PNW
I agree that that would be great as a consumer, but given how protectionist China is, you can hardly blame countries for responding in kind. Trade should be a two way street.
Doesn't Tesla have a factory in China?
They do. The Chinese government gave them a special exemption, presumably because they wanted to build EV manufacturing expertise. Other foreign auto companies are not allowed to open their own factories in China; they have to do a joint venture with a local manufacturer.
>presumably because they wanted to build EV manufacturing expertise

Worked with Apple!

They do. Because Elon is proving himself to be quite an idiot.

China was more than happy to welcome him in, and have him teach them how to build an EV. They simply copied what they could and improved on it.

"The communists will happily sell the capitalists the rope the capitalists hang themselves with"

BYD has been making batteries since '95, cars since '05, plug-in hybrids since '08 and EVs since '09. I don't doubt that China may have made use of Musk, but I severely doubt he's the one who "taught them how to build an EV".

If you think China can only make stuff by copying what other does, you're gonna under-estimate them.

The timing doesn't line up. BYD has already been selling EVs by the time Tesla opened a factory in China. Heck, they were selling EVs even before _Tesla_ existed.

And they clearly have their own expertise. There are videos of BYD and Tesla car teardowns, and you can see that they quite differ in design philosophies.

I think China was more interested in creating more competition internally, rather than just ripping off the technology.

It’s other capitalists that stole the tech. China is a country of capitalists living under a communist regime.
capitalists the communists put up with because it's better for communism in the long run
> it's better for communism in the long run

"Communism" is a theoretical concept. The CCP is what they are protecting, an authoritarian power structure.

Free market does not exist
Or rather, it exists briefly until it is naturally captured by the biggest players.
There is always some industry thats favored by gov due to good reasons.

Military, food, energy, etc.

Which is sensible; the problem is favouring some players so much they capture an entire industry. Free market is a perfect ideal, it can't exist in the real world.
Just buy a Textron golf cart and you have 90% of the Chinese EV experience.
Are you saying all cars that are manufactured in China are rubbish? Because that is just plain wrong.
It's the same propaganda that was used against Japan and Korean cars. Asia = bad, America = good.
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