[OldSchool]

More "bad news" and from the man who helped create and then promote Agile to dilute the value of software developers by forcing software development out of the control freak's nightmare where it started: seemingly esoteric, non-understandable by management, and make sure the next generation of developers knows their place. That's Agile's insidious purpose as far I am concerned.

As for AI-written code, I wouldn't fly on a plane controlled by AI-designed and AI-tested code, but much of development is busy work, not problem solving or design. AI excels at turning a protocol spec into a parser for example. I'll take that any day. AI excels at finding stuff, particularly non-code, thesis-level ideas for algorithms and also at about the same level, what's been shown not to work when solving a non-deterministic problem.

If we're lucky, AI will fill in after exposing who is only doing busy work and who is creating.

[znort_]

i had to laugh at his announcement that "otoh ai will give you the power to get all that coverage and cyclomatic complexity stats done in minutes, which you know doesn't really mean that the code is going to work".

also, his prediction assumes that ai will be able to learn from its own code going forward. will it also create its new programming languages and tools?

but it's a funny rant.

[mvdtnz]

Your claim is that software developer value has been diluted in the past 20 years? Have you ever compared software developer salaries to the jobs with similar skill levels?

[OldSchool]

I will suggest that for sure it was way easier to get an engineering job in the 80's, 90's, even 00's. Offering one resume and getting one interview and one job offer soon after wasn't uncommon.

I was an employer for a decade in the 90s and I didn't think to haze any candidates or demand huge amounts of their time on speculation: I wanted honest people who were great problem solvers; you know them when you meet them. The first clue is they know about a lot of things outside of the field you are working in as well, this shows up as a very visibly and broadly capable person, making them notably self-reliant. Everyone I hired got up to speed and stayed until well after we were acquired.

As for my opinion on Agile: creating a management system to corral people without these skills doesn't magically create these skills for you in the aggregate; it might be more robust to the influence of one individual but that is a side effect of the real goal of hiring from a much broader pool, and ensuring that nobody is overly critical at the cost of headcount and ironically, agility in the business world to quickly follow opportunities.

[HeavyStorm]

That's a conspiracy theory if I ever heard one.