[thisislife2]

Ah, the periodic "Ukraine is winning the war" propaganda by western media to keep their citizens in a "warmongering" panic mode so that they don't oppose the hike in defence budgets. And to make the Europeans feel less guilty about not suing for peace ( https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/why-unjust-peace-bett... ) and egging the Ukrainians to keep fighting even though Ukraine is losing and being systematically deindustrialised and demilitarised ( https://www.russiamatters.org/blog/4-years-later-what-russia... ). History is repeating itself with the re-militarisation of Europe and it looks like we'll experience another World War. For all the progress they have made, the big 3 of Europe - UK, France and Russia (and emerging power Germany) - all still have a shitty imperialist mindsets which leads to this kind of repeated confrontation that drags us all into their muck. I am really beginning to believe the American pitch that they were the one who kept them all in check, after WW2 with their military bases in EU.

[adjejmxbdjdn]

Ah yes, the massive hike in the U.S. budget for Ukraine that went from billions to $0.

In fact, it’s Ukraine that’s providing the U.S. military aid.

Also, I guess the Ukraine wins are complete fantasy, that’s why Middle Eastern countries and the U.S. are striking deals for Ukraine to supply defense weapons to their bases in the Middle East, which they’ve already started doing.

And I guess the burning oil depots and ports across the Black Sea that can be seen on satellites are also absolute fantasy.

And I guess the fact that Russia has gained almost no territory in a year, and doesn’t have even claimed to gain any territory is also a fantasy.

I guess Russian military bloggers who have started questioning the war, at the risk of imprisonment, are also fantasy.

I guess Kim Jong Un now admitting and celebrating the fact that Russia is using North Korean mercenaries is also fantasy.

The list goes on, but it doesn’t change the fact that this 2 week war has now lasted 5 years and Russia has made almost no progress in the last 2-3 years.

[thisislife2]

> I guess the Ukraine wins are complete fantasy

Yes, it is fantasy when you still talk about a few battles that Ukraine won, what 2-3 years ago? Since then, their counter-offensive to take back Russian occupied territory has failed, they've been forced to withdraw from even the Russia territory they had captured, and during this same period, Russia has slowly kept advancing and occupying more and more of Ukraine's territory.

> I guess the burning oil depots and ports across the Black Sea that can be seen on satellites are also absolute fantasy.

Yes, it is a fantasy if you think burning a few oil depots or damaging refineries or pipelines will suddenly make Russia give up all the territory they have captured in Ukraine and result in the military defeat of Russia. Understand geopolitics - this whole war started because Russia doesn't want Ukraine in NATO because then Russia would lose access to the Black Sea and any NATO missiles in Ukraine can reach Moscow within a few minutes. And that is why Ukrainian strategists are stupid if they think drone and missile attacks deep into Russia will make Russia give up - no, it won't because every successful drone and military strike deep into Russia keeps reminding them of how vulnerable they will become if NATO comes to Ukraine! Every successful drone and missile strike thus means that Russia will keep fighting ruthlessly to destroy the Ukrainian army (demilitarisation), and that is what they are doing.

> I guess the fact that Russia has gained almost no territory in a year, and doesn’t have even claimed to gain any territory is also a fantasy.

ISW itself reports that Russia's average monthly gain (in the last 12 months) has been around (roughly) 171 sq. miles / month (in the last 12 months). As for your claim of "silence" from Russia on newly occupied territories, RT reported recently that ‘A few kilometers’ left to liberate Donbass – Kremlin - https://www.rt.com/russia/638343-peskov-donbass-kilometers-l... .

There is no doubt that the Russians are advancing slowly. And that is partly due to the good defence by the Ukrainian military. But it is also partly Russian strategy to advance slowly because their goal is not just to occupy territory but to de-industrialise and demilitarise Ukraine - In other words, Russia wants to drag this war as long as possible till it either achieves victory through diplomatic surrender or military surrender. It knows time is running out for Ukraine as it is economically crippled, and its military is running out of men.

> I guess Kim Jong Un now admitting and celebrating the fact that Russia is using North Korean mercenaries is also fantasy.

The Russians and the North Koreans have military alliance to help each other. That Russia can rely on North Korea as an ally to join and fight with it should worry the Ukrainians as it shows what a true military alliance is. Compared to how the Koreans have helped the Russians take back the territory that Ukraine had captured, Ukraine's American and European NATO allies look like cowards in not joining them to fight the Russians.

> Russia has made almost no progress in the last 2-3 years.

Shows what you really know - "Since February 24, 2025 ... Moscow’s troops have taken 4,524 square kilometres (1,750 square miles)" - Russian gains in 4th year of Ukraine war exceeded previous 2 years combined: Analysis - https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2026/02/24/russian-...

[Gud]

What war are you watching? Ukraine are losing minuscule amounts of land to the Russians, who are taking heavy losses, while clearly destroying Russias capacity to wage war.

Ukraine are winning. With more help, they can win faster. We should do everything we can to help them.

[thisislife2]

> Ukraine are losing minuscule amounts of land to the Russians,

The fact is that they are losing land (albeit at, as you say, a slow pace due to good defence). But as the Ukrainian military has no real ability to launch a counter-offensive against the Russian to take back these lands, it is now effectively Russian territory. They have already lost around 20% of their territory and anyone with some common sense about warfare will tell you that Ukraine has no real hope of ever getting back these territories - Ukraine simply doesn't have enough men or the right weaponry to launch a counter-attack. (Yes, you are right somebody should help Ukraine to win this war - and the only way Ukraine can win this war is if the west send in their soldiers to fight alongside Ukrainians. But they will not do that. That is why Ukraine should surrender, to retain what territory and soldiers it it still has before it loses more of them - everyone of you who is urging Ukrainians to keep fighting the Russians alone, never tells me how much territory and men should Ukraine lose before it decides to pragmatically end the war?)

(Either you are ignorant about these facts, or are just peddling falsehood here when you say "Ukraine is winning the war").

[adjejmxbdjdn]

Your 2 links are 2 separate opinion pieces, the first of which states that peace is better than war for Ukraine, which, is obvious?

The problem is that Putin’s demands so far only set the stage for future war.

[thisislife2]

> which states that peace is better than war for Ukraine

No, what it is saying is that Ukraine has no hopes of defeating Russia and thus should accept that reality and settle, however unjust the terms, because otherwise it would lose more territory and / or soldiers, while its economy keeps getting crippled.

[tim333]

I don't think it really works like that. The bbc doesn't sit around think - ah let's push some warmongering propaganda. That's more a Russian thing.

Also re Europeans not suing for peace etc. - it isn't a war between Europe and Russia or NATO and Russia or the US and Russia. It's an invasion by Russia of Ukraine and the Ukrainians are fighting back. Again that's kind of Russian propaganda to say their invasion of Ukraine is actually a war with someone else not involved. The used to say the US but how many times has Trump effectively yelled surrender at the Ukrainians now?

It's history repeating itself along the Russia invades country x with a bunch of bullshit about how it's not it's fault etc which has happened about thirty times, the worst being partnering with Hitler to start WW2.

Russia isn't doing that well at the moment. The western media has always been pro Ukraine but even the Z propagandists are flipping from Russia is invincible to Russia is losing now.

It's a bit of an Afghanistan like situation. Russia is stuck and its regime will hopefully collapse at some point as seems traditional when it loses wars. Putin was looking very nervous last time I saw him and there are talks of palace coups.

[thomassmith65]

It's laughable to accuse Europeans of having an 'imperialist mindset' in relation to Ukraine. It's not they who now are gambling with a third World War, it was the Russians who gambled on it when they began seizing territory.