[tim333]

I don't think it really works like that. The bbc doesn't sit around think - ah let's push some warmongering propaganda. That's more a Russian thing.

Also re Europeans not suing for peace etc. - it isn't a war between Europe and Russia or NATO and Russia or the US and Russia. It's an invasion by Russia of Ukraine and the Ukrainians are fighting back. Again that's kind of Russian propaganda to say their invasion of Ukraine is actually a war with someone else not involved. The used to say the US but how many times has Trump effectively yelled surrender at the Ukrainians now?

It's history repeating itself along the Russia invades country x with a bunch of bullshit about how it's not it's fault etc which has happened about thirty times, the worst being partnering with Hitler to start WW2.

Russia isn't doing that well at the moment. The western media has always been pro Ukraine but even the Z propagandists are flipping from Russia is invincible to Russia is losing now.

It's a bit of an Afghanistan like situation. Russia is stuck and its regime will hopefully collapse at some point as seems traditional when it loses wars. Putin was looking very nervous last time I saw him and there are talks of palace coups.