[ndom91]

Anyone know much about the new top of the line Intel vs AMD CPU options? Which is more power efficient? Powerful?

[dismalaf]

AMD Ryzen AI 400 is built on TSMC 4nm and Panther Lake is on Intel's 18A so Intel is literally a generation ahead for this product cycle and wins hands down...

[nottorp]

But is the GPU good for anything? I'm used to Intel being completely crap and AMD actually being able to run games if you can live without 8k and 400 fps.

Also how's Linux support for either?

[dismalaf]

Intel GPUs have never been that bad... In the past they were simply small because the expectation was they'd be paired with a dGPU.

The Core series has GPUs on par with or even slightly bigger than most of the Ryzen AI series (look up benchmarks and articles).

[nottorp]

> they were simply small

But that's bad in my book. I'm happy with 720p on low detail once in a while if it's a laptop. What I remember is Intel GPUS being unable to do even that.

If they caught up with AMD iGPUs, that's great. I don't do desktop replacement laptops, I prefer the ones I can hold in one hand, the dGPU is in my desktop.

[dismalaf]

> What I remember is Intel GPUS being unable to do even that.

Maybe in the days of HD graphics cards... I've got a Tiger Lake chipset and the Xe iGPU outperforms the laptop 3050 dGPU in actual games (due to having access to waaaaaay more RAM).

[nottorp]

Well it's hard to erase a crap reputation.

During the previous chip crisis when covid and crypto were waning I needed a new desktop. Damned if I was going to buy a discrete video card at those prices so I went AMD integrated graphics. Didn't even stop to look at Intel.

(For the record said desktop has a discrete GPU now, but I bought it like 2 years after I built the desktop.)

[wmf]

Intel Core Ultra 3xx is mostly better than AMD Ryzen 3xx/4xx. This year you're better off with Intel.