[dismalaf]

> What I remember is Intel GPUS being unable to do even that.

Maybe in the days of HD graphics cards... I've got a Tiger Lake chipset and the Xe iGPU outperforms the laptop 3050 dGPU in actual games (due to having access to waaaaaay more RAM).

[nottorp]

Well it's hard to erase a crap reputation.

During the previous chip crisis when covid and crypto were waning I needed a new desktop. Damned if I was going to buy a discrete video card at those prices so I went AMD integrated graphics. Didn't even stop to look at Intel.

(For the record said desktop has a discrete GPU now, but I bought it like 2 years after I built the desktop.)

[dismalaf]

Dunno, AMD (and ATI) had a poor reputation for years and only rehabbed it when they released the Zen architecture in 2017. Even then it took a few generations to be seen as better than Intel.

Intel has had a positive reputation the vast majority of the time from 1990 up to now, with only the last few years being bad.

[nottorp]

> Intel has had a positive reputation

For integrated GPUs? Both sides were crap until Zen. I just didn't notice Intel caught up.

> from 1990 up to now

For CPUs they're fortunately still playing catch up with each other. You remember when AMD released Zen, but do you remember when Intel released the Core stuff and how crap Pentium 4 / Netburst was right before that?

[dismalaf]

I'm just saying that people buy the best thing and memories are short, no one really cares what brand their CPU is...