[ls612]

This is for good reason though. You want to overproduce significantly in ordinary times so that if there is a big negative shock you will still be able to produce enough to feed everyone merely by not destroying the excess anymore.

[unglaublich]

But in a pure market that would mean that during overproduction times, prices should be low. Which they artificially aren't through industry price fixing.

[bee_rider]

I’m not sure what a pure market is.

The result that free markets are Prato optimal, though, requires conditions like low barriers to entry, perfect information, and low cost transactions… none of which seem very well met in the case of agriculture.

[adgjlsfhk1]

It turns out that low barriers to entry, perfect information and low cost transactions are almost never present.

[voxl]

There is no reason to obliterate food, you should give it away to those in need.

[Alupis]

People do not eat tart cherries directly. They are processed into other goods, like pie filling, juice concentrate, etc.

Sweet cherries have no such regulation, and are the ones you consume directly as a fruit - without any additional processing.

[Dylan16807]

That's a nice bit of trivia but it doesn't really affect the comment you're replying to. It's still food, full of flavor and calories, and able to be used by a home cook (by making a pie).

[Alupis]

If you researched this regulation even a little, you'd see the crops are rarely destroyed. They are far more often exported, diverted to secondary markets, donated, or carried-over into next-season's stock.

It's interesting to me how people are quick to comment about things they know nothing about...

> It's still food, full of flavor and calories

Tart cherries have about 1-2 calories per cherry, and do not taste good without a lot of sugar. That's why they are used in commercial processing, not generally sold as a fruit in grocery stores.

[Dylan16807]

Coming back later, I realized earlier I looked up the calories but I didn't compare them to anything else. So while tart cherries "only" have 50 calories per 100g, sweet cherries are up around 60, not very different. An apple also has about 50-60 per 100g. So does an orange.

Fruit isn't super dense in calories to begin with because it has so much water, but it's still a meaningful amount, and tart cherries are pretty standard among fruit.

[Alupis]

Which is to say consuming tart cherries is not a significant source of calories and not something "people in need" are in need of at all.

Maybe just quit being needlessly pedantic? Every point you've attempted to raise in this thread has been entirely pointless and equally ridiculous.

[Dylan16807]

> If you researched this regulation even a little

Yeah yeah yeah I saw that in your other comment.

That's a completely different argument.

The argument you made in this comment is still a bad one.

It's interesting to me how people are quick to move the goalposts...

[Alupis]

So you understood the crop we're discussing is rarely destroyed - and more often donated, diverted to secondary markets (ie. sold in grocery stores), or exported - yet still felt compelled to say a home cook could use them?

What was even the point of your snarky comment then?

[nh23423fefe]

Ok drive to Michigan and haul away 3 tons of cherries.

[munk-a]

Are Michigan tart cherry farmers allowed to sell direct to customers without additional licensing requirements and food inspections?

[voxl]

Insightful retort, did you forget the slight issue of it being illegal?