[Batbird]

This triggered flashbacks. I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but I think we sometimes also used used Pascal, and it was optional for some toolboxes. It's been a long time though so I could be mistaken. That might have been pre-Mac? But good times, though. Boy, is the world a different place.

[DavidSJ]

The original Mac system software was written in Pascal and most Mac toolbox calls took Pascal-style (prefixed by length) rather than C-style (terminated with null character) strings. But you could write application code in either language keeping this caveat in mind.

[eschaton]

It was actually mostly written in assembly, but used Pascal calling conventions and structure layouts since that was expected to be the primary language for application developers. As it had been for Lisa, as it was for “large” applications on Apple II, and as was the case for much of the rest of the microcomputer and minicomputer industry and even the nascent workstation industry (eg Apollo).

It was the Lisa system software that was mostly implemented in Pascal and some blamed this for its largeness and its performance. Compilers and linkers weren’t great back then; most compiler code generation was pretty rigid, and most linkers didn’t even coalesce identical string literals across compilation unit boundaries!

Lisa Workshop C introduced the “pascal” keyword for function declarations and definitions to indicate they used Pascal calling conventions, and otherwise followed Lisa Pascal structure layout rules, so as to minimize the overhead of interoperating with the OS. (I’m not sure whether it introduced the “\p” Pascal string literal convention too or if that came later with Stanford or THINK Lightspeed C.)

[drob518]

That brings back the memories. I had a copy of Lightspeed C for the Mac in college.

In the workstation world, most companies used C and not Pascal. Apollo was different in that regard as their operating system, Domain, was unique to themselves, while most of the other workstation companies (Sun, HP, DEC, and IBM) were using Unix variants of some time (either BSD-based or System V-based in most cases). Apollo Domain was written in Pascal and was definitely not Unix-based. It had many unique and interesting features. In particular it had very sophisticated authentication and file sharing capabilities. A user could log in on any machine that was part of the domain (hence the name) and the user’s complete file system would be made available over the network on that hardware. Every system on the network shared a domain-level file system which removed the need for many Unix solutions like NFS. I had just accepted a job offer out of college from HP’s workstation division when HP bought Apollo. By the time I started, a couple months later, I was part of the HP side of the Apollo Systems Division.

[eschaton]

You’re talking about the workstation world circa 1985 and later, but prior to then the victory of C and UNIX wasn’t a sure thing. Apollo was the big player, but they weren’t the only ones.

In particular, many minicomputer vendors had some type of graphics and engineering workstation system built around their minicomputer product line, whether multi-user (where you’d have one minicomputer or even mainframe serving multiple bitmap or vector graphics terminals) or single-user (whether using a dedicated low-end minicomputer as a single-user system or using a new CPU design).

The Xerox Alto is what everyone cites as the start of the workstation trend, but it didn’t just beget the Xerox Star, the Lisp Machine, and the Lisa, it also led to the Three Rivers PERQ and CAD/CAE environments built on top of modular hardware from Data General and DEC, to the point where eventually DG, DEC, HP, and others released their own graphical workstations based on their minicomputer architectures.

All of these used vendor operating systems, not UNIX, and almost all emphasized the use of Pascal and FORTRAN for high-level application development. (The ones that didn’t had vendor languages too, like InterLISP and Mesa for Xerox.)

[WillAdams]

A good example of this dichotomy is the Puzzle Desk Accessory --- originally written in Pascal (as an example of making a DA thus), it was too large to include on a 400KB micro-floppy disk, so was re-written in assembly language going from 6K Bytes to 600 Bytes:

https://www.folklore.org/Puzzle.html