[ndiddy]

Trump stated "We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated." [1] He also posted an official statement from Iran's minister of foreign affairs saying that Trump had "[accepted] the general framework of Iran's 10-point proposal as a basis for negotiations". [2] The specific version of the proposal they are negotiating with does not seem to be public, but Ghalibaf's statement mentions three of the specific points he views the US as breaking.

[1] https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1163657967133...

[2] https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1163660721369...

[JumpCrisscross]

Thank you. I guess there is wiggle room on which ten points he believes “is a workable basis on which to negotiate.”

> Ghalibaf's statement mentions three of the specific points he views the US as breaking

Well, sure. We shouldn’t have drones over Iran. Israel shouldn’t be bombing Hezbollah. And Iran probably shouldn’t be bombing Saudi Arabia or restricting transit through the Strait.

That said, both sides are being disingenuous. If there are terms, publish them. If there is only a framework, there is nothing to break.

[constantius]

Israel is bombing Lebanon. How many of the 254 dead yesterday were civilians? And of the 1700 dead to date?

Edit: I notice now that you didn't fail to understand this distinction in the very next sentence, but that wasn't about Israel...

[JumpCrisscross]

> I notice now that you didn't fail to understand this distinction in the very next sentence, but that wasn't about Israel

We know Hezbollah continues to operate in Lebanon, that the Lebanese state has disavowed it, and that Hezbollah doesn’t seem to represent broader Lebanese but instead Iranian interests. So until we see hard data that Israel is doing a Gaza campaign across Lebanon, I’m inclined to give benefit of doubt to stated objectives.

[ndiddy]

From CBS reporting today (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lebanon-israel-ceasefire-talks-...):

> Multiple diplomatic sources told CBS News that President Trump had been told that the ceasefire announced Thursday would apply to the Middle East region, and he agreed that included Lebanon. Mediators believed the ceasefire to include Lebanon, and Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif announced that it did. Araghchi also said it was included.

> On the day of the ceasefire, a White House official told CBS News that Israel had also agreed with the terms of the deal that Pakistan had helped to broker.

> However, the U.S. position shifted following a phone call between Netanyahu and Mr. Trump. Two sources familiar with the matter told CBS News that the changing U.S. positions, and the disjointed remnant of the regime in Iran, are making the diplomacy highly complex.

> Vice President JD Vance told reporters on Wednesday that there was a "legitimate misunderstanding" about the terms of the ceasefire, but he placed blame on the Iranians for misunderstanding that it included their proxy forces in Lebanon.

It's great to see that Israel has veto power over US foreign policy.

[JumpCrisscross]

Thank you. This does seem to indicate that we changed the terms of the peace after a handshake.