[The_Goonies1985]

>Most of the privacy claims (of all type of apps) are essentially garbage...

True. Everything has backdoored CPUs as its foundation. Consider, for starters: (Intel's 'Management' Engine); AMD's (PSP); Apple/Arm (black-box hardware).

You can layer as much theater as you like on top of the hardware-surveillance-layer in modern computers; it still won't grant you privacy.

[txrx0000]

Counter-surveillance is not a binary switch. We can win by forcing the government to use increasingly expensive backdoors and exploits (>$10k per capita per year, beyond which mass surveillance is impractical even with a $1T budget). Hardware backdoor capabilities are costlier to maintain and use than something at the app level. Encrypting content and leaving metadata exposed is still better than encrypting nothing because they'll have less info to work with which means more effort. The point of all this is not to make it impossible for the gov and corps to surveil a targeted individual (of course they'd be able to if they expend enough resources). The point is to ensure that they only have enough resources to do targeted operations rather than blanket mass surveillance. The former is fine for a democracy, but the latter destroys it.

[badgersnake]

Power is open. But nobody wants to build power devices for some reason.

[UltraSane]

They are very expensive. Cheapest Power9 system Raptor Systems has is $6,794.99 and it has only 4 cores and 8GB DDR4 RAM and 128GB SSD. Reminds me of Sun Sparc pricing.

https://www.raptorcs.com/content/BK1SD1/intro.html

[badgersnake]

Yeah, that’s because nobody is building them so they have to use IBM server chips.

[UltraSane]

Why is the motherboard so expensive?

[badgersnake]

Same problem, low volume

[ricardobeat]

Power?

[supermatt]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_ISA

[ricardobeat]

RISC-V is also open. That “some reason” is likely to be power/performance levels being quite far from ARM & Intel for consumer devices.

[vrganj]

China is building out RISC-V, just like they are leading actually-open AI.

https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3347684/alibaba-d...

Weirdly, the authoritarian state is the one saving us from our own digital authoritarians.

[NitpickLawyer]

> they are leading actually-open AI.

How are they leading? If I parse this correctly, "actually" open would mean fully open data training and weights? Then, by this definition, I'm only aware of Olmo (AllenAI - Seattle), Apertus (Swiss) and to some degree (unclear what data was actually published) Nemotron (Nvda, US). What are some examples of chinese similar models? (I'm not aware of any).

[badgersnake]

RISC-V is slow though

[snvzz]

RISC-V is an ISA.

There's nothing inherently slow about it, anymore than there is anything inherently slow about x86 or ARM.

High performance microarchitecture implementations are definitely possible. Some of them are available for licensing.

At least one of them (Tenstorrent Ascalon) has been tapped out into a chip and will show up in development boards later this year.

[jagged-chisel]

That’s no guarantee that a Power implementation isn’t compromised.

[fsflover]

This is security nihilism, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27897975