[teach]

This is amazing but even as a runner who loves to make my own "processed" food this really reads like a submarine article for the dairy industry.

"I used to be vegan, but you know I just can't liveeeeeeee without that real butter!!!!!!!"

[wilg]

The idea of butter being good doesn't strictly seem like it demands a conspiracy theory.

[ssgodderidge]

The implication is that the lack of good butter made someone abandon veganism … while possible, it seems unlikely?

[DetroitThrow]

I've known people abandon veganism (for vegetarianism) over cheese, since it's such a common ingredient in restaurant food. Butter feels a little less likely.

[Schmerika]

Not if you've ever had good butter* on good bread*.

* - which most American's haven't. I realize this sounds like needless shade, but it's very true.

[ksaj]

Wonderbread is cake. And The Cake Is A Lie.

[wilg]

Unless they were just using it as an example because they were asked about butter!

[tonyedgecombe]

Butter is high in saturated fats which are bad for you. It is also very calorie dense. Eating a lot of calorie dense foods makes it difficult to control your weight.

It's probably better than margarine but I wouldn't describe it as a health food.

[code_biologist]

N=1, but I’ve been doing low carb paleo for 15+ years, from about age 20 to my current late 30s. I live off of butter, tallow, and lard. My weight has only crept up when I’ve eaten a lot of processed food. I get quite lean even with high fat if I fast more frequently or dip into ketosis. I’m trying to pack on some extra muscle with weight lifting right now and it’s not easy to get enough clean calories short of eating spoonfuls of (happy, pastured) bacon grease.

All I’m trying to say is that butter isn’t the enemy. Maybe commercial dairy production practices are the enemy, won’t argue with that.

[throwup238]

> I’m trying to pack on some extra muscle with weight lifting right now and it’s not easy to get enough clean calories short of eating spoonfuls of (happy, pastured) bacon grease.

I thought I was the only one with that issue! I'm not paleo but my diet is heavy on whole foods, salads, and I don't eat much in carbs so once I started weight lifting, getting enough calories during the bulking phase has always been a struggle.

Protein is pretty easy by just chugging a few protein shakes a day, but calories? I had to start drowning my salads in olive oil and trying to sneak it or avacado oil or butter into every dish I cooked. A stick of butter only has like 800 calories!

[Breza]

I highly recommend the book Running Weight. Despite the title, it's useful for all kinds of athletes.

[KempyKolibri]

Problem with eating lots of animal fats isn't necessarily weight gain, but increased risk of ASCVD from raised LDL-c/ApoB. Can't really see/feel that until you keel over with an MI.

[tonyedgecombe]

>N=1

I do wonder if you keto people are storing up problems for your later life.

[ok_dad]

Some people call themselves vegans but will still use animal products that they feel are ethical. Also, some vegans do occasionally use animal products just because they want to.

I don’t think it’s a conspiracy but it’s weird that the vegan topic even came up in this article because it is immaterial to the main topic.

[SunshineTheCat]

I think about 90% of the time veganism has come up in conversations I've been a part of, it's been unrelated to the main topic being discussed.

[phowat]

Regardless of the vegan part the point still stands. It was also my first though reading the article before I came here to read the comments.