[dgan]

I dont know what world you/I are living in. I do ask claude to enumerate/explain concepts i am not familiar with. I never approached the free tier limit (is there one?). At work, we have a webpage which ia basically a chat to different models, sometimes i use it

Would I be paying 20€ to ask those questions? I dunno, i dont feel any particular need. Would I be paying 200€?! Are you insane hell no

[mdrzn]

People aren't paying $200 to chat, they're paying to have ClaudeCode or Cowork or Claude for Chrome do the work instead.

[khy34]

The question should really be what is the reservation price of existing buyers.

At some point the price will rise. But the value has to have risen for existing buyers to be ok with that - but can they perceive the value? Hmmm difficult to tell. Benchmarks are not an objective way to measure that.

In the long run google is most likely to acquire a serious cost advantage given their level of vertical integration.

[empath75]

We've been experimenting with claude code handling jira tickets and opening PR -- we're starting with Opus. It costs about $1 per PR that gets merged-- how much does it cost to have a software engineer do that PR? That's your price sensitivity. It will only get cheaper as models get more efficient and people get better at using them, though.

[khy34]

You’re operating in a micro perspective.

Managers of firms care about impact of financials. They don’t care about the metrics you are measuring / gaming. Ultimately all ‘progress’ has to show in the cash flows.

Are you taking more cost reduction projects and more revenue-generating projects? Are you actually delivering? Are customers perceiving you to be as trusted as before? Etc. are the only things that matter. ‘Show me the money’.

To me this is akin to the discussion re. Scrum, agile etc. Who cares? Show me the money.

[maxdo]

Totally agree. We cut the scrum this week it is so impractical in the modern world.

[maxdo]

This week my spending is > $2000 , and my ceo is very happy, another top user burned $1600.

You personally will not pay , but these who will will replace people who are not productive.

That’s actually the limiting factor. There will be top 5% of developers who will throw away on the street remaining 95%. No EU socialism will protect the rest . It is very unclear what is the new world market , with no web developers , no custom dashboard teams , no analytics teams , no devops whose role is to babysit human devs. From one side it’s a market for opportunity to automate , but human devs are generators of unlimited inefficiencies. Once the market settles down , the demand for lots of tools will shrink.

On my spendings to anthropic . I’m a manager, and top user I burn tokens on tickets creation , planing , even sprint filtering , for sure the most went to coding. Bugs are getting fixed by just sharing a screenshot and a sentence or two of description in 80% of the cases , all the way including to PR creation and making sure release is live and good with tests.

There are ways to cut the cost a bit , maybe 30-40% but it’s not practical .

[dgan]

sure, can't wait to see traders having chatGPT license and trying to convince it to explain the P&L lol. But what do I know