[chris_wot]

In Australia, our universities are finding that a large proportion of Indian students have been using GenAI for cheating. Often they get away with it. I'm not saying that people other than Indian overseas students cheat, but it does seem more entrenched. I'd love to know why. It doesn't actually help in the long term!

[aitchnyu]

How unserious/serious are the universities? Heard of diploma mills in Canada taking international students, letting them spend most of their time waiting at coffee shops and award them MBAs so they can be full time waiters and citizens.

[love2read]

In the United States, cheating via AI is now rampant regardless of ethnicity. I know little of Australian Universities but I would assume it’s similar over there.

[toast0]

I'm sure there's GenAI cheating from most communities. But the amount may vary based on the culture of learning.

Some people have the perspective that you're attending school in order to learn stuff, and the degree demonstrates you learned the stuff; some people have the perspective that you're attending school in order to get the degree and it doesn't matter so much how you check the boxes to get the degree.

This difference in perspective certainly didn't start with AI; it's been around for a long time. Some education cultures push more rote learning and some push more mastery of the subject. There's pros and cons, and pursing rote learning doesn't preclude mastery, and mastery often involves requires some amount of rote learning.

When you transplant a contingent of students between philosophies, you get conflict where there's differences.

[DaedalusII]

>The number of international students studying in Australia totalled 833,041 for the January-October 2025 period

>The United States hosts the highest number of international students on record, with approximately 1.1 to 1.2 million

The US has 32% more students than Australia and 1121% more people. Imagine if the US took on 13 million foreign college students per year lol

It does help them in the long run, because it ensures they get to reside in australia. after 4 years they get permanent residence rights and benefits, etc

[n1b0m]

Indian students have embraced GenAI at a rate significantly higher than the global average, with nearly 90% of students in some surveys actively using these tools.

Government Policy and National Initiatives: The National Education Policy (NEP 2020) has shifted the focus toward digital literacy. The government has introduced AI as a skill subject for younger grades and launched programs like AI for All to promote nationwide awareness.

[PunchyHamster]

I'd imagine they are just being worse at hiding it. GenAI is rampant pretty much everywhere in school system of most countries

[bogzz]

I imagine even a slight impediment in terms of being able to parse and express yourself in a language that you don't know as well as your mother tongue makes LLM usage much more tantalizing.

And not knowing the language quite as well as native speakers would also make you more likely to be discovered as having used an LLM to do coursework.

[malshe]

Citation needed. I have seen these kinds of assertion all my life without any evidence to back them up. For example, when I moved to the US, I was told, again without any evidence, Chinese students cheat a lot. It's always a couple of faculty who extrapolate their experiences with a few students and then slap racial labels on the entire student body.

[rramadass]

Exactly; A voice of sanity at last!

Notice that these sort of "racist rumours" only started in the last few years and not before. AI has simply lowered the threshold for _everybody_ to take-shortcuts/cheat etc. and nothing specific to any one group other than statistical numbers.

[chris_wot]

lol this has been going on for years, even before the rise of GenAI.

[rramadass]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47270866

[chris_wot]

Just where would one get the source for this? It’s not like Universities publish this sort of thing. It’s very much anecdotal, but it’s also very much something that lecturers and tutors have been noticing for so active now.

[rramadass]

There are no citations, no hard data, you say anecdotal and yet ask us to believe you?

This is just garden variety racism.

[paxys]

Hate to break it to you but everyone is cheating using AI.

[koakuma-chan]

How do you cheat on exams in real time? I saw somebody embed ChatGPT into a calculator, but at that point it's easier to just study.

[malshe]

The cheating is mostly related to homework assignments, class projects, etc. For exams, most students cheat the old-fashioned way.

[dartharva]

They are not there for the knowledge - knowledge is cheap and abundant. They are there for the credentials and subsequent potential access to offshore jobs.