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by zerosizedweasle 128 days ago
This attempt to hype Claw stuff shows how SV is really grasping at straws part of the bubble cycle. What happened to curing cancer?
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Crazy isn't it? The first commit on nanoclaw is 2 weeks ago and it already got a front page blog post from docker.com and they shipped first class feature to host it. You don't get much more peak-hype than this.
I don’t think SV is hyping Claw are they? Claw is all open source and indy. SV would much rather you use some YC service which does one thing Claw does, or use the LLM’s own dedicated 1P agent framework.
I get why you feel this way. There's this weird thing happening online where AI hype accounts dog pile on any hint of the beginning of a trend and will beat on it until the next trend comes around. They will make up claims and create endless content in the format that they discovered is effective.

This makes it really difficult to understand what's real and what's hype. It feels like everything that's trending is BS because of the obvious boosting and exaggeration.

But there are real, noteworthy things that are happening and they get mixed in with a lot of BS.

Coding agents being massive amplifiers of skilled developers productivity is not hype. There are countless 10s or maybe 100s of thousands of developers who have built things that they simply wouldn't have been able to do a few years ago. It doesn't matter what that MITRE study says if you've built something with your own hands that wouldn't have existed without AI.

Bringing the same coding agents to regular people on WhatsApp and Telegram, and connecting it with enough apps and data sources so it can do valuable work is a massive unlock of value. There is massive hype around it, but underneath all the hype there is something big and real. I am getting immense value from this. I recommend that you put your skepticism on hold for a short time and give it a real try. Real is key. If you go in trying to prove your skepticism right, you will be able to do that. But if you approach with curiosity you'll undoubtedly discover ways you can start extracting value from it

the big labs talk about curing cancer - Altman, Hassabis, Musk

the little guys hype Claw

Musk is spruiking self driving anti cancer bots now?

mad game.

it's in the neurolink v2 release
> What happened to curing cancer?

Because being a cancer is more, well, metastasizing.

Remember, that capitalism is growth at all costs, until the host is dead, aka cancer.

And, fake money until you can be money?

> Remember, that capitalism is growth at all costs, until the host is dead, aka cancer.

"Growth" in economics means trading things more often, not using more resources.

It also often means more efficiency. I think people are too quick to dismiss the fruits of Western post enlightenment economic thinking.
on the other hand, communism is collapse at everyone's cost
How boomerish of you to bring in the red scare and boogeyman of communism.

I'm looking at China pretty seriously, and for the evil "Chinese Communist Party", I'm over here seeing us languishing in basically every area.

Public transit is non-existent.

Power grid is fracturing at the seams.

Power generation is basically "gimmee coal and oil".

Robotics is what I watch China excel at, and the laughable Muskbots to do great pratfalls.

Great priced EV's are available everywhere, but in the USA.

So yeah, bring on Chinese style communism. I would love to be able to switch to electric, have great power and water grids, and high speed rail everywhere.

you can have public transit without a totalitarian police state, i’d rather keep building up western civilization through our values than to throw it all away for your promise
The USA, right now, has a totalitarian police state.

We just had Amazon Ring run an ad bragging about mass surveillance for "your dog". Most of us know that "your dog" is a dog whistle for brown people (aka immigrant looking).

Ring partnered with Palantir. Or maybe not.

Corporate social media is partnered with Palantir and that Israeli company that Discord is sending ID data to.

"Credit" is a system that the US capitalists came up with, not China. Now Credit is used to even verify whether you get jobs, or fly in a plane, or get a bank account. "Social Credit" ala China was the big scary propaganda, of what our system perfected by the 1990s.

The western nations have way way more cameras that 'Evil Capitalist China'. In fact, London is the most surveiled of anywhere. I'm guessing Washington DC is close behind.

And those 'less than lethal' weapons? Look at Minnesota. They sure as hell look lethal to me.

But yeah, keep blaming the Chinese. Although the last few times this world dealt with fascists, it was the Communists who finally broke them.

> "Social Credit" ala China was the big scary propaganda

Propaganda, like not as prevalent as in the US? Are you kidding me? China also has used many tool control the population. Did you hear of hukou? "Acktshually, ..." I can already hear you saying.

> The western nations have way way more cameras that 'Evil Capitalist China'

You know this because?

> Although the last few times this world dealt with fascists, it was the Communists who finally broke them.

Remind me who supported Polpot that killed a million of their own compatriots? Where did the Culture Revolution take place?

Depressing