[mystraline]

How boomerish of you to bring in the red scare and boogeyman of communism.

I'm looking at China pretty seriously, and for the evil "Chinese Communist Party", I'm over here seeing us languishing in basically every area.

Public transit is non-existent.

Power grid is fracturing at the seams.

Power generation is basically "gimmee coal and oil".

Robotics is what I watch China excel at, and the laughable Muskbots to do great pratfalls.

Great priced EV's are available everywhere, but in the USA.

So yeah, bring on Chinese style communism. I would love to be able to switch to electric, have great power and water grids, and high speed rail everywhere.

[dirasieb]

you can have public transit without a totalitarian police state, i’d rather keep building up western civilization through our values than to throw it all away for your promise

[mystraline]

The USA, right now, has a totalitarian police state.

We just had Amazon Ring run an ad bragging about mass surveillance for "your dog". Most of us know that "your dog" is a dog whistle for brown people (aka immigrant looking).

Ring partnered with Palantir. Or maybe not.

Corporate social media is partnered with Palantir and that Israeli company that Discord is sending ID data to.

"Credit" is a system that the US capitalists came up with, not China. Now Credit is used to even verify whether you get jobs, or fly in a plane, or get a bank account. "Social Credit" ala China was the big scary propaganda, of what our system perfected by the 1990s.

The western nations have way way more cameras that 'Evil Capitalist China'. In fact, London is the most surveiled of anywhere. I'm guessing Washington DC is close behind.

And those 'less than lethal' weapons? Look at Minnesota. They sure as hell look lethal to me.

But yeah, keep blaming the Chinese. Although the last few times this world dealt with fascists, it was the Communists who finally broke them.

[jryle70]

> "Social Credit" ala China was the big scary propaganda

Propaganda, like not as prevalent as in the US? Are you kidding me? China also has used many tool control the population. Did you hear of hukou? "Acktshually, ..." I can already hear you saying.

> The western nations have way way more cameras that 'Evil Capitalist China'

You know this because?

> Although the last few times this world dealt with fascists, it was the Communists who finally broke them.

Remind me who supported Polpot that killed a million of their own compatriots? Where did the Culture Revolution take place?