[criddell]

> The average human tested scores 60%. So the machines are already smarter on an individual basis than the average human.

Maybe it's testing the wrong things then. Even those of use who are merely average can do lots of things that machines don't seem to be very good at.

I think ability to learn should be a core part of any AGI. Take a toddler who has never seen anybody doing laundry before and you can teach them in a few minutes how to fold a t-shirt. Where are the dumb machines that can be taught?

[CamperBob2]

There's no shortage of laundry-folding robot demos these days. Some claim to benefit from only minimal monkey-see/monkey-do levels of training, but I don't know how credible those claims are.

[criddell]

A robot designed to fold laundry isn't very interesting. A general purpose robot that I can bring into my home and show it how to do things that the designers never thought of is very interesting.

[red75prime]

> Where are the dumb machines that can be taught?

2026 is going to be the year of continual learning. So, keep an eye out for them.

[Davidzheng]

Yeah i think that's a big missing piece still. Though it might be the last one

[red75prime]

Episodic memory might be another piece, although it can be seen as part of continuous learning.

[criddell]

Are there any groups or labs in particular that stand out?

[red75prime]

The statement originates from a DeepMind researcher, but I guess all major AI companies are working on that.

[mapontosevenths]

Would you argue that people with long term memory issues are no longer conscious then?

[toraway]

IMO, an extreme outlier in a system that was still fundamentally dependent on learning to develop until suffering from a defect (via deterioration, not flipping a switch turning off every neuron's memory/learning capability or something) isn't a particularly illustrative counter example.

[mapontosevenths]

Originally you seemed to be claiming the machines arent conscious because they weren't capable of learning. Now it seems that things CAN be conscious if they were EVER capable of learning.

Good news! LLM's are built by training then. They just stop learning once they reach a certain age, like many humans.

[criddell]

I wouldn’t because I have no idea what consciousness is,