[Espressosaurus]

This is a useful measure to point the law as a weapon against drone operators who may be recording what’s going on by accident or on purpose. Any drone made in the last few years is going to be emitting its ID, which likely has been registered with the pilot’s name and contact information.

They can then after the fact come down on that person without having to get facial recognition, grab cellphone beacons, or other similar steps.

[jacquesm]

It's trivial to build your own drone without a DroneID.

[gtowey]

And you will be labeled a terrorist for doing so, regardless of intent.

[sheikhnbake]

Every protester and registered democrat has been labelled a domestic terrorist already in both rhetoric and policy.

[mothballed]

DHS flagged my passport on a list for literally fighting against terrorist in a US sanctioned anti-terrorist militia. When I returned they interrogated me as if I was a terrorist.

So if you are against the terrorists, you are also a terrorist.

[roughly]

The Americans who fought against the Francoists in the Spanish civil war faced enormous scrutiny back home for what was later described as “being prematurely anti-fascist.” The state worries about people willing to take up arms to protect their ideals without being told to do so (or what those ideals are).

[nine_k]

This is the administration of the same FDR who stayed in power for 4 consecutive terms, which imprisoned nearly 150k ethnic Japanese, most of them US citizens, without any due process, and which executed one of the biggest power grabs by the federal administration. In a way, FDR was much more impudent towards law than Trump, but he was not publicly arrogant or silly, and WWII has been won under his rule, so he is considered a good guy.

[bsder]

FDR and the US were actively at war against Hitler and Nazi Germany. The Japanese had bombed Pearl Harbor. These were two of the worst, period, regimes to ever exist and they carried out absolutely abominable war crimes that are still studied in history books today.

Trump and ICE are at war with a middle aged mother and a VA nurse. And they're doing all this in Minneapolis because the gangs in LA scared them off.

[jacquesm]

I don't mind being labeled a terrorist. Fortunately I'm not in the USA. But you couldn't pay me to go there. One man's terrorist...

[themafia]

> I don't mind being labeled a terrorist.

You should. It's not meant for your vanity and it represents and extreme overreach by the government. It doesn't make you "cool."

> But you couldn't pay me to go there.

Of course we could. Aside from that this mentality always shocks me. There are more civilians in the US than government agents. What were you expecting when you got here? It's madness..

> One man's terrorist...

Is another mans freedom fighter. Sure, fine, if you want a civil war. Perhaps a more civilized approach is called for? Unless you particularly enjoy digging graves for your friends.

[abeyer]

> Perhaps a more civilized approach is called for?

It certainly is, but one side doesn't seem to think so.

[themafia]

The "other side" says the same thing.

I think you're both being manipulated by cynical people who have extensive access to the media that you do not.

Seems far more likely, no?

[ejdndjrnnd]

A civil war is coming whether you like it or not.

The mentally-ill are running the asylum and executing citizens. No matter what crazy shit the gop/tea party/maga have accused the left of NONE of it came to pass until they themselves were in power.

The administration WANTS a civil war; they’re ensuring one happens.

If you’re against owning guns, you’re in for a world of hurt. So buckle-up butter cup, shit is gonna be insane soon.

[themafia]

> The mentally-ill are running the asylum and executing citizens.

The the natural outcome should be rebellion. Why would it be civil war? Do you presume that the "other half" completely agree with Trump and would literally fight you to the death over it? You bandy about these terms as if you do not understand their true meaning.

> The administration WANTS a civil war

So you're going to play exactly into that? Why on earth would you give your "enemy" precisely what they seem to want? You can't detect the manipulation here?

> you’re in for a world of hurt

One of us is.

[jacquesm]

> You should. It's not meant for your vanity and it represents and extreme overreach by the government.

That's your opinion, I don't necessarily share it.

> It doesn't make you "cool."

What made you think that I thought it looked cool. I just realize that at some point play time is over.

> Of course we could.

No, you can't. And the fact that you think you can is interesting. 'No' means 'No'. You can not pay me to go to the United States, period. I have lived on the border for years and have friends there, already missed a funeral. It isn't going to happen until sanity returns and frankly I don't see that happening in the next decade or two so most likely I will never go back there.

> Aside from that this mentality always shocks me.

What shocks you? That people abroad look at the USA and evaluate their options? What's so shocking about that?

> There are more civilians in the US than government agents.

Indeed, and a good chunk voted for this and I can't easily tell them apart.

> What were you expecting when you got here?

Well, the last time I went it cost me a couple of really good boots. Who knows what it will cost me next time?

> It's madness..

Yes, but it is not my madness and I don't have to factor in ICE into my daily affairs. As a visitor into the United States that would be a major factor, as many people have already found out, which you seem to conveniently skip over. I don't visit places where the rule of law is that shaky.

> Is another mans freedom fighter. Sure, fine, if you want a civil war.

No, I don't want a civil war. But I can't stand by idly while people are oppressed by their government and that makes it much better for me not to be exposed to such situations. Countries I will not visit: Russia, China, United States, Iran, North Korea, most of Africa, quite a few more countries in Asia. Countries that I would reluctantly visit: Most of Latin America, probably some others. Countries that I'm happy to visit: all of the EU, some countries bordering the EU, Japan, Australia, New Zealand.

> Perhaps a more civilized approach is called for?

Have you watched the news recently? I think it is pretty clear what the civilized side is in these conflicts.

> Unless you particularly enjoy digging graves for your friends.

No, I don't enjoy that. But my friends that have died in one particular struggle did so in the firm belief that what they were doing was just and right and I share their belief. I'm old enough to realize that if you don't stand up when it matters then you're just as bad as the rest.

Germany had a good chance to stand up to fascism and blew it. If fascists take over where I live or nearby you can count me in to be on the other side. I've read my grandmothers' diaries and I have written about that before, it is a stark reminder of what happens as soon as the gestapo starts doing the rounds.

[Cornbilly]

Yeah, that’s been the GOP playbook for 20+ years. It’s only recently been used for US citizens.

[hackable_sand]

And...?

[diebillionaires]

Anyone not fascist is already labelled a domestic terrorist.

[oawiejrlij]

For some people