[breve]

> But no, your Subaru isn't a meaningful competitor.

Tesla is a car company. Every car company is a competitor to Tesla.

As a legacy EV manufacturer, Tesla is struggling to compete in the current car market. Tesla's sales have declined for the last two years.

It's why they're having to squeeze fewer customers for more revenue.

[ajross]

Clearly I needed to be more precise: Tesla's vehicle autonomy features have no meaningful competition in the consumer auto space, period. Anyone who tries to claim otherwise is flogging some kind of angle, generally a political one. And I say this as someone who despises Musk's politics. But the cars his company makes are way, way, way ahead on this particular feature.

[nradov]

Is that a joke? Tesla's consumer vehicle autonomy features are ahead in some ways but way behind GM and Mercedes-Benz in others. In particular the Mercedes Drive Pilot system is true SAE level 3 where the manufacturer assumes legal liability for vehicle operation. Tesla has nothing like that available to consumers.

[ajross]

Drive Pilot cannot perform a single one of the maneuvers I listed above.

It's just a stunt. They took a machete to the feature set to find Just One Thing that would meet the requirements. All it does is use radar to follow another car on a selection of fixed, geofenced limited access highways. It can't handle the leader changing lanes, or going too fast (won't even get to the speed limit). It won't navigate, it won't change lanes. It can't even operate on an open road.

But it's "L3V31 THr333", so otherwise rational nerds get to yell about it on the internet. No one actually shows this thing off in their cars, it's not useful for real driving. FSD drives me around literally every day.

[Eggpants]

And yet Tesla won’t take responsibility for FSD mistakes. I had one and it’s amazing when it works but it did try to kill me a number of times.

[sizzle]

GM supercruise is pretty sweet and hands free on my lyriq

[breve]

And it's just a shame that it's not helping them sell cars and it has never lived up to what Tesla claimed they would deliver?