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by geocar 152 days ago
> But it is also ebay's right to decide whether or not its computer will allow requests from your computer.

That is dangerous thinking right there: Ebay does not have rights.

Of course ebay may do it anyway, and it may take time for justice to correct things, but it is not Right, nor their right, to violate law even to protect themselves.
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terminalshort 152 days ago
> Ebay does not have rights

No, that is the actual dangerous thinking. Ebay enjoys the same freedom of association that you do. Their right to not do business with you is exactly the same as your right to not do business with them. It's the very same right you exercise every time you use an add blocker.

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geocar 151 days ago
> Their right to not do business with you is exactly the same as your right to not do business with them.

You are incorrect about that. They are subject to the ADA. I am not.

As a publicly listed company they have a tremendous number of other laws that apply to them and not to me.

> It's the very same right you exercise every time you use an add blocker.

Exactly: As an accessibility tool, it is illegal for a company to deny service in the US (and Ebay is a US corporation, despite their Canadian roots) for the use of the tool.

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terminalshort 151 days ago
Is ebay denying you service because you have a disability? If not, the ADA is completely irrelevant.

> it is illegal for a company to deny service in the US

No it isn't. If you want to claim this, cite statute.

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geocar 151 days ago
> No it isn't. If you want to claim this, cite statute.

Robles v. Domino’s Pizza

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guywithahat 152 days ago
Yes they do, as they should. Ebay is in an extremely competitive market and you have lots of other options, if you're abusing their service they need to be allowed to ban you. Imagine if Amazon wasn't allowed to ban scammers, or if they couldn't refuse a login portal to a user, allowing infinite attempts. It's important they get to decide whether to deliver a page to you, let alone keep you as a user.

If we were talking about some government-run water utility then sure, it would different, but a private online store can ban users without ruining their life, and if you're opposed to this new rule you should stop using them in protest.

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geocar 151 days ago
> > Ebay does not have the right ... to violate law even to protect themselves.

> Yes they do, as they should.

No they should not, and I cannot believe you could say any such thing in good faith.

> if you're abusing their service they need to be allowed to ban you

Who said anything about "abusing their service"?

> Imagine if Amazon wasn't allowed to ban scammers

Nobody is talking about banning scammers.

Don't do this: Don't argue in bad faith. You can still disagree and think companies have the right to commit crimes, but you don't have to act like I'm saying something that I'm clearly not!

> but a private online store can ban users

Actually they can't, because we're now talking about users instead of scammers and abusers: There's something called the Americans for Disability Act, and it protects access to storefronts and no a private online store CANNOT ban users who need an accessibility tool.

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