[alembic_fumes]

I invite you to ponder the question: would a worldwide ban of all advertising have a greater or smaller impact on environment-destroying activity than banning of all air travel?

I would argue for "greater", and from that it rather naturally follows that advertisement and marketing indeed kills humanity.

[SketchySeaBeast]

Can we un-confound those factors? Advertising sells us cheap plane trips, and it looks like leisure is reason for the majority of flights.

[simianwords]

Sure but its just people buying things.. so what?

[aduantas]

Billions of people buying things has unintended negative consequences. Advertising exists to amplify desire to increase buying.

It doesn't take a high intelligence to perceive the problem.

[charcircuit]

People buy things because it provides them value. Increasing buying means that more value is being delivered to humanity. Advertising makes the world a better place.

[card_zero]

Weird thought: if advertising is misleading harassment, perhaps it doesn't even increase consumption overall, but only consumption of the things being advertised. Perhaps people would buy more, from the market as a whole, if left in peace and given impartial advice about products only when they seek it.

[robotpepi]

you really don't see the problem with what you say? are you trolling?

[charcircuit]

The problem that I didn't compare the improvement to humanity to the damage to the environment?

[adventured]

You can't argue with a philosophy of death.

Humans must dramatically modify their environment to thrive.

What they want: human modification of the environment to entirely stop.

Human regression is actually what they're after.

[robotpepi]

the first sentence "People buy things because it provides them value." is very false. that's central to many of the problems with marketing.

[OAIToTheMoon]

Why do your recent comments defend OpenAI so strongly?

[satvikpendem]

I dislike this framing. Criticizing an argument is not defending, and it certainly doesn't mean the critic likes the opposing side of the argument. Seems like you're the one with the bias, having created your account just today for this one specific post.

[OAIToTheMoon]

OK.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46640744, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46641035, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46644216, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46645814

[simianwords]

lol idk what you want to imply but ok

[amitav1]

The way you phrased this makes it sound like he's a shill, but his takes about AI don't seem unusually complementary.

[simianwords]

I'm specifically defending advertisement here.