[kasey_junk]

I have spent a lot of time in Philly (and more importantly Delaware which has better Philly cheese sandwiches) and I will never agree a Philly cheesesteak is better than a beef.

That said I don’t think Chicago is a particularly good pizza town. Tavern style is fine but I agree the idea that it in someways redeems the Chicago pizza scene is also not true. But the best pizza in NYC is not a slice either so perhaps it’s just the nature of pizza that regional variations only detract from the form.

But a Neapolitan style pizza, with good ingredients, from a proper oven and an operator who can really do it is much harder to execute.

[Larrikin]

I agree not all cheesesteaks are created equal. When I lived there, there was still the corner $5 cheesesteak that wasn't that good but was only $5. But Joe's to me ruled supreme over everyone else. I've been back with people who thought they were just fine but not great from a place like Jim's, but then understood the hype after going to Joe's. It was such a good call for him to drop the racist name after the previous guy died. I still would take a corner cheesesteak over an Italian beef.

I always thought that if there was an evil pizza genie, if I could only ever eat one type of pizza but could eat pizza only when I was in the mood, I would choose deep dish. If I had to eat pizza everyday I would choose a NY style. If I could choose any style at anytime when I wanted to eat pizza, I would choose Detroit.

And if I had to live overseas, I would choose an Italian style because there is a conglomerate that strictly regulates it with a bunch of rules and most other takes on pizza have been pretty bad. Devilcraft has been the only pizza place I've been in Tokyo that has a decent non Italian style.

[kasey_junk]

I thought Joes closed?

[Larrikin]

They shut down the original location in one of the most inconvenient places in the city to get to and now operate in one of the more popular neighborhoods in the city. I felt lucky that I just happened to go a few weeks before they announced the closure.