[twixfel]

Pretty pathetic then to justify the murder of a widowed mother of 3 just for turning down the wrong street. What was that thing that guy said about those willing to trade freedom for security will have none?

Modern day MAGA Americans are not worthy inheritors of the great nation their ancestors built. You've become OK with your own government murdering you, lol.

[devwastaken]

The woman is one of the worst examples of people you could have chosen. her kid (singular) was taken away because their lesbian partner physically abuses the kid. She was left out of her ex husbands funeral because she was crazy and a danger.

She was there to intentionally instigate ice. it was planned, she planned to try to run them over with her car and would have been successfull if it went her way.

[eudamoniac]

It's not justified; this is a tragedy that should not have happened (though FWIW I think it's believable that officer was in fear of his life from the car). It's just that since many Democrats have largely made it clear that they don't intend to enforce the law or the EOs of the elected president, both of which philosophically constitute the will of the people, federal agents have had to get involved in an unsavory way, with predictable collateral damage. I would prefer we just had governors enforce the law in a normal way, but here we are. "MAGA Americans" did not spring into being from a petri dish, their deplorable views fully formed; they have seen decades of non-action or subversive action from politicians in regards to immigration law, having come to believe the current sort of ICE deployment is necessary to achieve immigration law enforcement.

As they say, those who make peaceful something impossible make violent something inevitable.

[twixfel]

>As they say, those who make peaceful something impossible make violent something inevitable.

Well, it's certainly clear that Trump is a revolutionary force rather than a conservative one ;)

Even going the Trotskyist route of working to export revolution abroad!