[SecretDreams]

> sure, although if tribal differences are always experienced as fundamentally morally repugnant one might think the moral calibration is screwed a bit too tight.

They're not always experienced this way. But that's the trend in America.

> but even at my most contemptuous of a culture and a people I will at times be forced to admit, honestly, that they have behaviors that can also be considered admirable

Ya, I think it's something along the lines of "even a broken clock is right twice a day".

Do I need to give out a cookie when the clock tells me the correct time if it's fucking me on the time the rest of the day?

[bryanrasmussen]

Even a developmentally disabled human tends to be significantly more complex than a stopped clock so the analogy doesn't work well.

if anything it is more than a computer with a lousy video and sound card, you don't use it for games or streaming movies or most things, but due to some other things (which I am not going to take the time to create a plausible scenario why this should be) the computer is actually really superior as a server, so you have set it up for that. Do you give out a cookie for the computer that works really well at serving content over port 80 despite it sucks for anything you enjoy?

[SecretDreams]

> Even a developmentally disabled human tends to be significantly more complex than a stopped clock so the analogy doesn't work well.

I think it works perfectly, honestly. Maybe moreso after the above statement.

> Do you give out a cookie for the computer that works really well at serving content over port 80 despite it sucks for anything you enjoy?

No, I do not. Nor does the server ask for a cookie. It just does its job consistently without making a fuss. If governments could do that bare minimum thing, the world would be a better place.