[blain]

> German provider with 4 shared cores, 4GB of RAM, 120GB of SSD disk space, and a 1Gbit/sec internet connection

Where on earth did he find €4 VPS with these specs. For example Hetzner's cheapest VPS has 2 shared vCPU, 4 GB RAM, 40 GB NVME SSD.

The cheapest I found is https://contabo.com/en/vps/ but it still doesn't have 1 gb/s connection with that price.

Edit: typo

[47282847]

https://www.lowendbox.com/ is a popular source.

[lbotos]

I came here to fight you but there are some low end boxes with lots of ram and disk for pretty cheap!

Found this as an example: https://lowendbox.com/blog/black-friday-bytehosting-is-here-...

[Imustaskforhelp]

The bytehosting deal is good too! Oh btw lowendbox has a forum called lowendtalk where hosting providers etc. talk as well and show deals etc. and I got part of the community (you need to register and be verified manually but it wasn't hard)

Lowendbox is amazing. Glad we are talking about it as I recently joined it and the community's really supportive and honestly feels more so in the sharing spirit and I even talked about why people use lowendhosts etc. and got some pretty good answers imo

Although do be beware to stay away as there are some hosters which end up going completely down. So go with someone reputable as well and there is whole lore beneath in this forum :)

Racknerd,dedirock are usually recommended, I recommend https://serverdeals.cc/ etc. I have a list which I can recommend after being in the community for some time and here's some websites which I recommend for suggestions

https://serverdeals.cc/

https://vpspricetracker.com/

https://getdeploying.com/

Honestly I still recommend hetzner tho because these are some really really good deals but hetzner just has this reputation of more stability and I jsut have more faith in hetzner and its a "good enough" option imo and there are even some lowendhosts who kind of do share the fact that hetzner is very price competitive.

I personally had gotten a 2$/month 1TB vps hosting (yeah didn't really end up using it much aside from the shock factor/running yabs on it)

and also I got a 3 month 8bucks deal with netcup using their vouchers and everything to get 8 gigs of ram 4vcpus etc and honestly this was the best deal I ever saw but I will have to pay 5 bucks I guess after the 3 months end.

Most of it is remaining idle tho :< Are there any services I can run for the benefit of humanity (like running some self hosted services that can help anybody out there or smth?)

Let me know if you have any questions! I might be able to help you as I was active on lowendtalk till quite recently

[p2detar]

I'm on Hetzner as well; migrated from DigitalOcean. They are stable, but they got a bit of bad reputation, since they were hacked at least 2 times already [0] [1]. Stable != Secure.

0 - https://www.heise.de/news/Hetzner-gehackt-Kundendaten-kopier...

1 - https://www.zdnet.com/article/hackers-breach-web-hosting-pro...

edit: links

[CoolCold]

Am I reading something wrong on Racknerd? https://www.racknerd.com/kvm-vps

> 1 GB RAM 2 vCore 50 GB RAID-10 SSD 1 TB @ 1Gbps 1 Free IP $17.99 /month

that's far from any sort of cheap, may be there is something very special with them?

[numpad0]

How did these came to existence? Most of these offerings look basically identical. Is it ran by the same guy behind, or is it like a get rich quick network business stuff?

[IgorPartola]

Some of these are resellers. Big provider sells them a package of 10-1000 VPSs and they set up websites to sell them to you. But you can also find lots of direct deals as well. BuyVM famously has their $15/year deal on a 1GB VPS. You can also often find dedicated servers for like $25/month. I recently bought a $75 lifetime deal on some email hosting for up to 25 domains and I think 250GB storage. Great for some secondary domains and such that I use. There are some real gems out there and you should see their Black Friday threads. Kind of a wild place.

[Imustaskforhelp]

There are lots of even cheaper deals than buyvm usually with racknerd and dedirock. Black friday deals are absolutely amazing but always go with someone a bit more reputed and Buyvm's an amazing choice too although they would be considered "pricey" in comparison to someone (just a few $'s) (I have joined their discord server)

I think racknerd recently did a 6.85$ or similar deal but the point of these deals become is that they become insanely overprovisioned and it becomes a showpiece of sorts "look what deal I got ;P" kinda not sure.

I think another fascinating deal about lowendtalk is that man those people have this faith in small hosting providers and giving chances to them etc. hoping that they become big as well. There are very few places like lowendtalk on the internet. I find a lot of similarities with the hackernews culture although more focused on deals/hosting although its definitely more casual than hackernews.

[toast0]

There's some commercial software to sell/resell VPS, etc that some of these outfits use.

And it's pretty much a commodity business, so things are going to tend to look similar. If you're buying $5/month VPS, you don't want to pay for a lot of fluff. A lot of these are small time local hosters in a single location, but that's usually all you need for a small site.

[Imustaskforhelp]

Its usually WHMCS + virtfusion

There are alternatives but usually all just go use these for some reason

This is also why a lot of these websites might look similar as well.

[ksec]

LowEndBox is as old as HN and has been doing VPS deals before the cloud took over. There are also deals offering for VPN services as well.

[Imustaskforhelp]

To be honest there is one instance that i know of where what ends up happening is that colocrossing a major vps provider does end up doing something like this (they used to be hosters/owners???? of lowendtalk/lowendbox)

Now another aspect is that the hosting economy is very mutual, they all start out somewhere and they are usually friendly towards each other. Most Hosting providers start out by either using reseller service directly or by colocating or by reselling dedicated servers which can be themselves of other providers

I don't know but the community is both cut throat and chill at the same time. It's strange to point this phenomenon but I think my point of their friendliness is something which depends and I don't know much about it but I once asked people on lowendtalk if I wanted to create a cloud provider myself and I got some responses and they were friendly so I am basing it off of that

Another aspect is that the market has already raced to the bottom super hard. Hetzner/OVH are really cheap, so to get even cheaper, you kinda have to be in the same pricing range I guess

Fun or not so fun fact but do you know that there have been cases of lowendbox providers to actually go shut down because they take these completely no profitable sense deal and actually lose money sometimes. VeloxMedia is a recent example of that and there is still controversy surrounding it.

There is also the fact that the scam industry in this department works as such:

Rent a really big server with lots of cores for a few months

Sell them unreasonably in LET for the year pricing or more

Then sell the company/be unable to provide/etc.

these I think are called as deadpools in the community.

Also regarding your comment behind same guy, there are sometimes family relations between people

as an example, racknerd I think is owned by the stepson of the owner of colocrossing and they I think using colocrossing themselves.

These have their own little drama stories and I think this is just the tip of iceberg as I just joined recently and probably digging through old archives.

[elxr]

Wow, this is amazing. Tempted to try one of their $2/month suggestions.

[selcuka]

A random provider could be a hit-or-miss. I've personally used RackNerd (found them on LowEndBox/Talk) in the past and can't complain for the price. They have plans under $1/month, and they even provide an IPv4 address:

https://www.racknerd.com/BlackFriday/

No affiliation, just a happy customer.

[znpy]

I had wildly varying experiences with companies i found on lowendbox.com

Some were fine, some offered a very good yearly plan but vanished after three weeks.

So yeah… people should keep that in mind.

[Aurornis]

Be careful when comparing core counts across providers. Those ultra cheap providers are using servers that can be many generations old. They might also be heavily oversubscribed. 4 vCPU on one of the cheap providers could be slower than 2 vCPU or even 1 vCPU on a newer generation server. You really have to test or look at benchmarks.

If you have a RAM-constrained application where CPU and RAM speed are less of a priority, they can be great deals though.

[draga79]

this: https://www.netcup.com/de/server/vps/vps-500-g11s

[riedel]

This one was slightly above 4 EUR (but without any minimum contract duration)

Here are actually the 4 EUR and below offers: https://www.netcup.com/de/server/guenstige-vserver-angebote

Funnily I on first sight could not find the same page in english.

[giancarlostoro]

buyvm used to have one (not with those specs) for like $5 a year with 256 MB I used to love buying one or two of those for simple stuff.

[Imustaskforhelp]

I am also of a similar belief but I recently found exe.dev on hackernews and I am kind of play-testing with it and the dev seems active on hackernews and on the discord so I am definitely giving it a go

Gullos Hosting which has 128 Mb server for 3.5$/yearly and also for $4.49 you can still get a 256mb server from C-servers and $5.50 from byteVirt.

But also, there is fact that one can probably just buy hetzner servers or upcloud servers or similar idk. I will probably try to get some free services and then transition to hetzner/upcloud/netcup when my project needs more scalability/is shown to be of valuable to the general public/interests regarding it.

Honestly I got a 8 gig netcup server for 5$ and so I got it out of their limited deals section but I am thinking of just holding it and probably gonna use it extremely because with the rising prices etc., I think its good enough too as well

I just love yapping about server prices and comparing them etc. I think I just love a good deal lol.

[KomoD]

> Gullos Hosting which has 128 Mb server for 3.5$/yearly and also for $4.49 you can still get a 256mb server from C-servers and $5.50 from byteVirt.

I can't recommend Gullo's. I experienced near-constant network issues with my NAT VPS (in Poland, I think?), making it so unusable that I just let it idle until it expired. I should've spent the money on a 6 pack of beer instead, it is what it is.

[awesome_dude]

> now is a 4 euro per month VPS in Milano, Italy - 4 shared cores, 8 GB RAM and 75GB disk space.

He didn't - he found a better specced one in Italy for that price

[draga79]

Exactly. Same price but better specs. The current provider is OVH and they recently started to host VMs in Italy.

[sva_]

Oracle Cloud gives you 4 oCPU (ARM), 24GB ram, 4Gb/s (10TB), 200GB NVMe SSD for free.

Although some people say it is difficult to get an instance nowadays. But it worked for me and I've been using it for more than 2 years now. Some say that free tier users sometimes get booted, that's why one should upgrade to a paid account.

[LaurensBER]

The registration process is so cumbersome and annoying that I gave up. At that moment we were in contact with Oracle for a business contract at work, the horrible sign-up process, increasing CDS (Credit Default Swap) spread and risky AI investments made me decide to cancel the POC.

If your sign-up tier is so frustrating to use that you loss sales and you cannot fix it as a company, that doesn't inspire confidence in the rest of the infrastructure...

[loloquwowndueo]

If your company is small enough that you don’t have a full procurement department to deal with all this, you’re of no interest to Oracle :)

[vjerancrnjak]

I cant even register.

[joecool1029]

I have one for testing arm64 stuff on Gentoo. Worst signup I’ve ever had with a company.

Once I got account I could not spin up server until converting my account to paid. They’ve never charged a fee but they won’t let you use ‘always free’ instances in busy regions until you convert to a paid account.

[Yeri]

there's €1 and €2 VPS too: https://www.strato.nl/server/vps-linux/ (not sure what the quality is but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

[weiliddat]

IME strato is OK for cheap VPSes as long as you don’t have high expectations.

5-6 years ago, I remember trying to scale up to the 16/32GB tier was miserable and oversubscribed; moving to Hetzner at the same price point brought a huge performance boost (mostly on CPU and disk access speed).

[weiliddat]

Don’t want to ding strato exclusively, likely the case for most $1-$4/month type hosting.

Not bad as long as you know what you’re getting yourself into.