[lovich]

> An intelligent asshat or non asshat that was an imbecile.

I like your implication that Trump is not an ass hat here instead of the biggest asshole ever elected to office

> There are so many things I don’t like about him but some of his policies such as immigration / border enforcement, natural resource utilization, federal workforce reduction, regulatory reduction and tariffs are absolutely legit imho and will take time to have an affect.

For most administrations yea, since they actually try to keep the government running and use a lighter touch, but since this guy took a sledgehammer to everything we’re already feeling the effects, unless you believe the inflation report that’s missing tons of data produced by people who replaced the leaders that gave him numbers he didn’t like previously

[roamerz]

>> biggest asshole ever elected to office

I do agree and more was just trying to moderate my comments.

[lovich]

You didn’t moderate your comments by painting him as the opposite of what he is.

That is called lying

[dpark]

I don’t know how to connect constructively with people who have this viewpoint. Like, no matter how terrible Trump is as a human being, it’s okay because supposedly some of his policies will eventually pay off.

“Look, I know he’s an utter piece of shit who is a known con artist and surrounds himself with sycophants and his policies are demonstrably failing to achieve anything that he claimed, but like, he’s cracking down on immigration and that seems worth unraveling democracy.”

[roamerz]

>>I don’t know how to connect constructively

Yeah we probably never will. The part of him that everyone hates is creating a division in the nation. On the flip side I disagree so much with what the Biden administration did I am willing to accept his faults and will bide my time until Vance and Rubio take office when hopefully the hate will subside and we can start to come together as a country.

[dpark]

The part of him that I hate most is that he’s exposing a huge chunk of the country as being willing to continue to support a man who very clearly cares nothing about democracy or the country except to the extent that it lines his pockets.

> hopefully the hate will subside and we can start to come together as a country

Trump got elected on a platform of divisiveness and hate and he’s continued that playbook since. You can’t support him and then seriously say you want the country to come back together.

[roamerz]

The emotional hate I see is mostly centered around the person and not his policies. I am hopeful yes that once that divisive aspect is gone we can at least have somewhat normal discourse about policies and centrist ideas.

[dpark]

Centrist ideas like abducting people off the street and sending them to deportation camps without due process under the assumption of guilt? Or centrist ideas like sending troops into politically opposed states out of spite? Or sweeping tariffs imposed without congressional approval? Or centrist ideas like the president having virtually unlimited authority and freedom from criminal prosecution for effectively any act?

What centrist ideas do you believe are going to come from any of this? Because this stuff isn’t centrist.

[1659447091]

The "emotional hate" isn't for the singular person, its the methods used to enact and enforce policies that this admin is taking, which will continue even when he is gone so long as the senior staff running things in the background are still there.