[wiz21c]

Java is owned by Oracle. And you sure don't want to do business with that company. There's a reason why postgresql is slowly eating their cake.

[OrangeMusic]

This is FUD. Java has many open source implementations and nobody needs to deal with Oracle.

[vidarh]

Even if we postulate that he fear is unwarranted and irrational, the fear is still real, based on Oracles history of lawsuits, and so the explanation still holds.

[gf000]

It explains nothing.

Java is possibly the safest bet on the future, it's open source both in spec and in the most common implementation (OpenJDK), and is so widely used that there are multiple FAANG companies critically dependent on Java working that alone could continue the development of the platform were anything happen.

Besides, Oracle has been a surprisingly good steward of the language.

[cwillu]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_.... is not what I would call “good stewardship”

[gf000]

What relevance does it have at the topic at hand? Can you give an example of what could happen that would make sense to worry about?

[TimTheTinker]

It's a lawsuit by Oracle against a FAANG company that relates in some (even tangential) way to the FAANG company's use of Java.

That's all that's needed to create a sense of caution for would-be adopters.

[krzyk]

We could also postulate based on left-pad that npm and javascript in general shouldn't be used.

It has similar bases on facts.

[veidr]

"npm and javascript in general shouldn't be used" — stipulated

[thesurlydev]

Immediately read this as "prostate" and proceeded to spit out my coffee. Carry on

[jve]

Well except Google that got sued for US$8.8 Billion because they decided to use specific API signatures but provide their own implementation...?!

[krzyk]

What Google did was similar what Microsoft did back in the days. Marketing something as Java, but wasn't Java.

[pjmlp]

It incredible how far the "Do not evil" marketing won the hearts of computing nerds, Google only got positive karma for doing with Android exactly what Microsoft did with J++.

To this day Android Java is not fully compatible with Java proper, and Kotlin became Google's version of C#.

[OrangeMusic]

Come on, that's a completely different story, Google made their own independent SDK using but incompatible with Java. Nobody's arguing you should do that.

Plus last time I checked Oracle lost that lawsuit.

[Hedepig]

... and Oracle lost

[cwillu]

And the lesson is not to trust Oracle.