[vidarh]

Even if we postulate that he fear is unwarranted and irrational, the fear is still real, based on Oracles history of lawsuits, and so the explanation still holds.

[gf000]

It explains nothing.

Java is possibly the safest bet on the future, it's open source both in spec and in the most common implementation (OpenJDK), and is so widely used that there are multiple FAANG companies critically dependent on Java working that alone could continue the development of the platform were anything happen.

Besides, Oracle has been a surprisingly good steward of the language.

[cwillu]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_.... is not what I would call “good stewardship”

[gf000]

What relevance does it have at the topic at hand? Can you give an example of what could happen that would make sense to worry about?

[TimTheTinker]

It's a lawsuit by Oracle against a FAANG company that relates in some (even tangential) way to the FAANG company's use of Java.

That's all that's needed to create a sense of caution for would-be adopters.

[gf000]

Running Java is not remotely the same as copying the API interface of the whole standard library and providing an alternative implementation, just to avoid paying Sun, who specifically intended on getting money from mobile usage.

Oracle lost the lawsuit and I do agree with the decision in that APIs should be freely replicated, but let's not pretend that Google was some saint good guy here fighting the good fight, they were just cheap and aggressively capitalistic.

[sroussey]

Doesn’t every open source implementation just “copying the API interface of the whole standard library and providing an alternative implementation”?

[krzyk]

We could also postulate based on left-pad that npm and javascript in general shouldn't be used.

It has similar bases on facts.

[veidr]

"npm and javascript in general shouldn't be used" — stipulated

[thesurlydev]

Immediately read this as "prostate" and proceeded to spit out my coffee. Carry on