[pjmlp]

C++ is one of my favourite languages, and I got into a few cool jobs because of my C++ knowledge.

However, given the option I would mostly reach for managed compiled languages as first choice, and only if really, really required, to something like C++, and even then, probably to a native library that gets consumed, instead of 100% pure C++.

[linguae]

I didn’t know you like C++. I’ve been reading your posts for a few years now and your advocacy of the Xerox PARC way of computing. I’ve found that most Smalltalkers and Lispers are not exactly fond of C++. To be fair, many Unix and Plan 9 people are also not big C++ fans despite C++ also coming from Bell Labs.

[pjmlp]

Back when C++ was becoming famous, my favourite programming language was Object Pascal, in the form of Turbo Pascal, having been introduced to it via TP 5.5 OOP mini booklet.

Shortly thereafter Turbo Pascal 6 was released, and I got into Turbo Vision, followed by Turbo Pascal 1.5 for Windows 3.1, the year thereafter.

I was a big Borland fan, thus when you got the whole stuff it was Object Pascal/C++, naturally C was there just because all C++ vendors started as C vendors.

On Windows and OS/2 land, C++ IDEs shared a lot with Smalltalk and Xerox PARC ideas in developer experience, it wasn't the vi + command line + debuggers are for the weak kind of experience.

See Energize C++, as Lucid was pivoting away from Common Lisp, with Cadillac what we would call a LSP nowadays, where you could do incrementatl compilation on method level and hot reload

"Lucid Energize Demo VHS 1993"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQQTScuApWk

https://dreamsongs.com/Cadillac.html

Or the Visual Age for C++ version 4, which introduced a database, image like system for doing C++ in workflows similar to Smalltalk.

https://www.edm2.com/index.php/A_Review_of_VisualAge_C%2B%2B...

https://www.edm2.com/index.php/VisualAge_C%2B%2B_4.0_Review

Then there is C++ Builder, still going on, even though the way Borland went down spoiled its market mindshare,

https://www.embarcadero.com/products/cbuilder

You're right altougth C++ was born on UNIX at Bell Labs there is that point of view, and also a reason why I always had much more fun with C++ across Mac OS, OS/2, Windows, BeOS, and Symbian, with their full stack frameworks and IDE tooling.

However with time I moved into managed languages, application languages, where it is enough to make use of a couple of native libraries, if really required, which is where I still reach for C++.