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by linguae
210 days ago
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I didn’t know you like C++. I’ve been reading your posts for a few years now and your advocacy of the Xerox PARC way of computing. I’ve found that most Smalltalkers and Lispers are not exactly fond of C++. To be fair, many Unix and Plan 9 people are also not big C++ fans despite C++ also coming from Bell Labs. |
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Shortly thereafter Turbo Pascal 6 was released, and I got into Turbo Vision, followed by Turbo Pascal 1.5 for Windows 3.1, the year thereafter.
I was a big Borland fan, thus when you got the whole stuff it was Object Pascal/C++, naturally C was there just because all C++ vendors started as C vendors.
On Windows and OS/2 land, C++ IDEs shared a lot with Smalltalk and Xerox PARC ideas in developer experience, it wasn't the vi + command line + debuggers are for the weak kind of experience.
See Energize C++, as Lucid was pivoting away from Common Lisp, with Cadillac what we would call a LSP nowadays, where you could do incrementatl compilation on method level and hot reload
"Lucid Energize Demo VHS 1993"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQQTScuApWk
https://dreamsongs.com/Cadillac.html
Or the Visual Age for C++ version 4, which introduced a database, image like system for doing C++ in workflows similar to Smalltalk.
https://www.edm2.com/index.php/A_Review_of_VisualAge_C%2B%2B...
https://www.edm2.com/index.php/VisualAge_C%2B%2B_4.0_Review
Then there is C++ Builder, still going on, even though the way Borland went down spoiled its market mindshare,
https://www.embarcadero.com/products/cbuilder
You're right altougth C++ was born on UNIX at Bell Labs there is that point of view, and also a reason why I always had much more fun with C++ across Mac OS, OS/2, Windows, BeOS, and Symbian, with their full stack frameworks and IDE tooling.
However with time I moved into managed languages, application languages, where it is enough to make use of a couple of native libraries, if really required, which is where I still reach for C++.