[grumblingdev]

Yes!!! Such great news.

Apple has really gone to shit. I am confronted by Apple performance and bug pain every hour of my life. I always think: how can someone think this is acceptable? Steve Jobs wouldn’t.

Everything is such trash I could go on for hours.

I realized a long time ago that if the person at the top doesn’t care then no one will. It seems hard to believe but it makes sense when you consider individual incentives, politics, and the complexity of software. Everyone wants a safe promotion and doesn’t want to take the risk to push things forwards.

Apple Silicon seems great but the Intel MacBook was the worst piece of shit ever so they kind of had to. I have a 2019 that was the top of the line but can’t do anything without overheating. It’s barely usable for any second laptop tasks.

[rkomorn]

> I always think: how can someone think this is acceptable? Steve Jobs wouldn’t.

The same Steve Jobs that was at Apple when it made the puck mouse? The overheating Intel laptops of the mid 2000s? The "you're holding it wrong" iPhone? The "unusably slow after two years" 11in MBA? The Cube?

He wouldn't what, exactly?

[jen729w]

> the puck mouse?

My mate Tim, professional graphic designer, used it for years. Loved it. He might still have it for all I know.

> The "you're holding it wrong" iPhone?

Was always nonsense. None of the Apple team used 'the bumper' and neither did I.

> The "unusably slow after two years" 11in MBA?

Are you seriously here criticising one of the most revolutionary hardware products of the last 20 years?

FWIW I used mine for years and had a corporate Windows image running under Parallels. Everyone was massively envious. (I was a Domain Admin, I could add my own machine to the network.)

> The Cube?

I'll give you that one.

[bigyabai]

Calling the 11" MBA "the most revolutionary hardware" of anything is one for the books.

[rkomorn]

Say hi to your friend Tim Theoutlier for me.

Also good to know the iPhone 4 thing was people lying instead of holding it wrong, I guess.

What exactly was revolutionary about the 11" MBA? Looking better than an equally performant netbook?

The notion that things were so much better under Jobs is just revisionist history.

Saying "Steve Jobs wouldn't have let today's Apple be this way" while ignoring what Apple was like in his day is just rose tinted glasses (or worse, cult of personality nonsense).

[tptacek]

Steve Jobs shipped a cordless mouse with a charger port on the bottom, the infamous hockey puck mouse, and a laptop that visibly discolored in the shape of handprints where your wrist rests. iTunes happened under Jobs watch and was unwound in the Cook era.

[javman]

I'm a huge critic of the mouse with the charger port on bottom, but that was the 2nd gen magic mouse released in 2015. Is there another mouse that had charger port on bottom?

The 1st gen from 2009 used AA batteries.

[ianburrell]

They just released the Magic Mouse (USB-C) with the port on the bottom.

It is weird that stuck with bottom port for so long. It would be smarter to put it on the front then it could be used as wired mouse, but I guess that wrecks the design.

[computerliker]

I’d like it and the TV remote to use an Apple Watch MagSafe charger like the AirPods Pro case.

[enraged_camel]

I don’t know man. I got an Intel 7700K when it first came out, and six years later it was struggling with modern day workloads. I didn’t blame Intel or Microsoft, I just upgraded and my performance problems went away. Not sure why Apple is held to different standards.

[loloquwowndueo]

Wow such anger.

> I am confronted by Apple performance and bug pain every hour of my life.

Why do you keep buying Apple then?

[denkmoon]

Everything else is even worse

[UnreachableCode]

Is it at all possible he has an Intel Mac from 2018 that he hasn't been able to upgrade yet, likely due to insane cost?

Because that's my thing

[sokoloff]

I have an Intel MBP from that era. It’s showing its age, but still works well enough.

If I was going to complain about the performance of an 7-8 year old laptop, I wouldn’t do it on a tech site for sure.

[Klonoar]

The modern MacBook Air is the best deal in laptops today and will outperform your 2018 MB.

It's also not insanely expensive.

[grumblingdev]

This Intel is my secondary laptop - but give it any kind of non-cricial task and the fan is on max and its practically unusable. I have M3 Max now.

[grumblingdev]

I had a 13 Pro and I thought it was too out-dated which was why my Safari was ridiculously slow, so I bought the 16 Pro...noticed literally zero improvement. Overheats, bugs galore, search for apps is slow and still doesn't work.

I am seriously looking at Android now, first time in my life.

[rilindo]

Person probably issued Apple laptops from work, which, funny enough is probably why they get performance issues, as work is going to drop in the usual CPU killing anti-virus and other corporate tooling.

[chihuahua]

Even without buying Apple, many jobs issue mandatory MacBooks. I can understand the frustration of having to deal with these. In my case, it's mostly the window management aspect of MacOS that infuriates me. I even spent $30 of my own money to buy uBar to make it a bit more usable. But uBar itself is buggy so it's not a perfect solution.

[Atreiden]

I'm using Aerospace right now, and really liking it. It's FOSS too.

[coconut08]

their software is not great but they literally make the best hardware on the planet right now. you don't get to being a 4 trillion dollar market cap by being trash. they must be doing something right.

[Gigachad]

It's not great, just everything else is worse. Windows is unbearably broken and loaded with adverts. Linux has been fairly neglected for desktops with few corporate sponsors.

[grumblingdev]

> right now

Yes I admit the Silicon MacBooks are pretty good - albeit losing external GPU support and max 4 external monitors.

The Intel MacBooks were unusable though.

There is such a lack of competition. We really some new polished Linux variant.

[bigyabai]

Second-best, according to the stock market. They must be getting something wrong if 4.5 trillion in market cap is sitting around waiting to be eaten. By Apple's arch-enemy, no less.

[kranke155]

Nvidia is more an industrial B2B business now.

[bigyabai]

So is Microsoft, arguably. They're valued at $3.5 trillion right now.

[PeaceTed]

It just feels like all of them are over valued but then we are in a TINA market nowadays. Where else is the money going to go?

[bigyabai]

There is no light at the end of the tunnel, Apple's shareholders are using this process to manipulate the stock price. If the next quarter performs poorly then the move up the timeline, if they do well then Cook's leash gets longer. Tim needs to be gone yesterday, not in a few months.

[PeaceTed]

Yep, if letting the stock market determine how the business is run, eventually it will be run in a way that will blow out the bottom of the bucket.

There is a fine line that needs to be walked between innovation and appeasing share holders. Cook is mostly just doing the latter.

[paxys]

What are you talking about they just released a $300 sock for your iPhone.