[whimsicalism]

I think there are plenty of ways to provide cheaper green power in Europe, if it is permitted.

In general, I don't understand the need to colocate data centers with the companies programming them - I'm sure there are many jurisdictions other than the US or EU that could spin up cheaper power.

[bpodgursky]

To start, EU data protection laws make it almost impossible to store customer PII overseas or send it to overseas data centers for inference.

[1718627440]

And as an EU citizen I like that they do. After all this is what they are for.

[whimsicalism]

interesting. sounds like the EU is getting the growth trajectory its voters desire, then - best of luck!

[andrepd]

Oh no, I live more years, work less hours, and breathe cleaner air, but unfortunately line goes up slightly less than in the US of A.

[Muromec]

The reason why you live more years and work less hours is because you are not milked out of enough of that sweet GDP juice.

Big if true and not clear if it's good news or bad news.

[throw20251110]

Who's going to pay your pension. Hopefully you have 10 kids. They all want free money, no work, more perks. But who pays for it... maybe "the state". We're pricing ourselves out of the market and guys like the one above clap. Crazy world.

[piva00]

Who is going to pay the pension for 60-70% of Americans who live paycheck to paycheck with not even US$ 1000 in the bank for emergencies?

[Muromec]

While everybody is fixated on fertility rate, the actual thing important for pensions is the pyramid. And the demographics pyramid of the EU (West of it least) looks pretty ok (not great, not terrible) from 20 y.o upwards. It's not sustainable forever and it rubs the fascists the wrong way for obvious reasons, but it's not even half that bad that the 1.20 number makes you imagine.

It's also very much possible this is a transitive thing and not the new settled norm.

[1718627440]

Have you expected otherwise? What does the commoner gain from having there PII in the hands of large surveillance companies? In my expectation people that are not oblivious to that issue and don't have stake in such a company would be for such a regulation.