[throw20251110]

Who's going to pay your pension. Hopefully you have 10 kids. They all want free money, no work, more perks. But who pays for it... maybe "the state". We're pricing ourselves out of the market and guys like the one above clap. Crazy world.

[piva00]

Who is going to pay the pension for 60-70% of Americans who live paycheck to paycheck with not even US$ 1000 in the bank for emergencies?

[whimsicalism]

completely false that 60-70% of americans live paycheck to paycheck. you cannot take self-reported survey data like that seriously, the median net worth in the US is something like $200k - there are plenty of people with hundreds of thousands of dollars in the bank claiming to live paycheck to paycheck here.

given that we are already seeing serious strain for some european pension systems, i don’t think this is a very strong comparison

[piva00]

As the other comment mentioned, remove 401k from the equation and it's much more dire. I don't include my Swedish tjänstepension when calculating my net worth even though it's quite similar to a 401k.

[whimsicalism]

It's not really true though. Home equity is a different story though

[LunaSea]

> the median net worth in the US is something like $200k

Only because it takes into account 401Ks.

[throw20251110]

Who even cares about that? We're not discussing Americans at all.

[Muromec]

While everybody is fixated on fertility rate, the actual thing important for pensions is the pyramid. And the demographics pyramid of the EU (West of it least) looks pretty ok (not great, not terrible) from 20 y.o upwards. It's not sustainable forever and it rubs the fascists the wrong way for obvious reasons, but it's not even half that bad that the 1.20 number makes you imagine.

It's also very much possible this is a transitive thing and not the new settled norm.

[throw20251110]

Incels in their 20s already scream they feel mistreated and don't want to hold the social construct. Let's fix the pyramid by importing more people on boats. Maybe they'll work for us.

[Muromec]

Thanks. It feels refreshing to see fascists hiding behind throwaways again.

[throw20251110]

You’re absolutely adorable—and it’s obvious you’ve already got it all figured out.