[lopsidedmarble]

The effectiveness or viability of protein maxxxing in diet is tangential to the stated goal of TFA: satiety.

My point was more to say the 'protein all the things' angle of TFA has more to do with the popularity of this diet advice right now than anything informed by satiety research.

[seanmcdirmid]

Sure, I hope I didn't state otherwise. Prefer protein over carbs when you are hungry, if you have to eat carbs, consider really small portions so you don't spike your insulin too much. You basically eat all the veggies you want, and your protein budget is pretty generous as well although you still need to watch calories on it (150 calories for 40g of protein is ok, but stay away from almonds).

My problem was that I was still eating large bowls of what I thought was a healthy cereal, but even if the calories looked good on paper, the insulin spike was killing weight loss.

[anon291]

Correct. People get mad about the low carb thing because they have come to believe, via habit, that the insane number of carbs on their plate is normal. It's not. There's hidden sugar and carbs in almost everything. Moreover most carbs people consume are highly processed.

People don't get fat eating brown rice. They get fat eating cereal with hidden sweets. 'healthy' oatmeal that's laden with sugar. Fried potatoes, etc.

[seanmcdirmid]

Brown rice and wheat based carbs are better than processed, but they are still carbs and will spike your insulin if you eat too much. I’ve pretty much given up eating them, but I had a small bowl of cereal tonight so can’t throw them off completely. You get a few carbs in your meat, veggies, fruit, etc…so it’s not like avoiding staples means you get no carbs at all.

[anon291]

Don't eat too much?

[bobmcnamara]

> People get mad about the low carb thing because they have come to believe, via habit, that the insane number of carbs on their plate is normal. It's not.

It's not normal, it's Nixon!

[FuriouslyAdrift]

Yeah it's the substitution of low density carbs for calories with high density fats that really makes the difference in satiation. It really only works while in keto (because you are fully burning fat for fuel) otherwise you are just going to end up storing the fat as excess and your body will go after your own protein as a calorie source (which is very very bad).