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by ethagknight 288 days ago
You assume ATF is lying at face value, thats fine. Remember that they also have access to paystub info, tax filings, etc, for workers at this plant. They already know who they are looking for. It's plain foolishness to think this was just a random checkpoint.

An appropriate response from the employer is, "We have thorough records on all our employment, we take employment laws very seriously, and we believe to the best of our knowledge that our employees are in proper legal standing in compliance with the laws of the state of Georgia." (update: from the article, they say are committed and cooperating)

Also, Biden-era Dept of Labor accused Hyundai of using child labor throughout its supply chain. UNDER THE AGE OF 14 in an auto factory. But sure, let's presume innocence and assume the feds are the illegal ones on this next turn.

>>“Our investigation found SL Alabama engaged in oppressive child labor by employing young workers under the minimum age of 14, and by employing minors under 16 in a manufacturing occupation,” said Wage and Hour Division District Director Kenneth Stripling in Birmingham, Alabama. “Employers are responsible for knowing who is working in their facilities, ensuring that those individuals are of legal working age, and that their employment complies with all federal, state and local labor laws.”

https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/WHD/WHD20221011

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> You assume ATF is lying at face value, thats fine.

No I assume it because their track record shows they arrest many people who aren’t breaking any laws. By their own stats they let about 30% of the people they arrest go. Assuming this was an average arrest, that means 450 is actually 315, and the 135 people wrongly arrested won’t receive anything resembling an apology.

I also suspect the stat of innocent people arrested will go up if they are ever forced to process the people they’ve tossed into concentration camps without due process.

Hyundai has a known track record of circumventing the law in the US, but you’d rather assume innocence. Can’t help that you side with child labor trafficking.

The wrongful arrests aren’t a death sentence, it’s an inconvenience of getting caught up in a much larger willful breach of federal law. They’re probably back at work the next day. I’ve personally been detained by police wrongfully. Not a big deal.

In early april, 2012?

I’d be a little more cautious about tossing around accusations of supporting crimes against children if I were you. Disgusting.

“The raid swept up 475 people, most of them South Korean citizens, agents said.

No Hyundai employees were arrested, the carmaker said. LG Energy Solution, the battery manufacturer, said 47 of its employees were detained.”

- https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/07/us/politics/hyundai-plant...

South korea has made a deal to bring everybody arrested home. Because without the due process you or I would expect if arrested, their citizens could be locked up for months without legal recourse or end up “deported” to a for-profit prison in a different country (aka trafficked into slavery).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/hyundai-fact...

Shocker of the year, lying gov caught lying.

I was talking about you.