[kennywinker]

> You assume ATF is lying at face value, thats fine.

No I assume it because their track record shows they arrest many people who aren’t breaking any laws. By their own stats they let about 30% of the people they arrest go. Assuming this was an average arrest, that means 450 is actually 315, and the 135 people wrongly arrested won’t receive anything resembling an apology.

I also suspect the stat of innocent people arrested will go up if they are ever forced to process the people they’ve tossed into concentration camps without due process.

[ethagknight]

Hyundai has a known track record of circumventing the law in the US, but you’d rather assume innocence. Can’t help that you side with child labor trafficking.

The wrongful arrests aren’t a death sentence, it’s an inconvenience of getting caught up in a much larger willful breach of federal law. They’re probably back at work the next day. I’ve personally been detained by police wrongfully. Not a big deal.

[kennywinker]

In early april, 2012?

I’d be a little more cautious about tossing around accusations of supporting crimes against children if I were you. Disgusting.

[ethagknight]

2022. This is the same company.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Alabama_child_labor_...

[kennywinker]

“The raid swept up 475 people, most of them South Korean citizens, agents said.

No Hyundai employees were arrested, the carmaker said. LG Energy Solution, the battery manufacturer, said 47 of its employees were detained.”

- https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/07/us/politics/hyundai-plant...

South korea has made a deal to bring everybody arrested home. Because without the due process you or I would expect if arrested, their citizens could be locked up for months without legal recourse or end up “deported” to a for-profit prison in a different country (aka trafficked into slavery).

[kennywinker]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/hyundai-fact...

Shocker of the year, lying gov caught lying.

[kennywinker]

I was talking about you.