[mywacaday]

I can see a valid use for a version of chat control where the communications of all elected officials are retained forever and audited on a regular basis for doing anything illegal, proposing anything illegal, actions not in the public interest, cronyism etc. All data should be released when they die, 10 years after they leave office or upon conviction of a crime related to political appointment.

[WinstonSmith84]

For what it's worth, politicians are excluded from this law (it's not a joke)

[close04]

Logically it follows that anyone who "has something to hide" will seek the safe harbor of a political position. How many election cycles until all politicians are terrorists and pedophiles?

[bilekas]

> Logically it follows that anyone who "has something to hide" will seek the safe harbor of a political position

Politicians are the new clergy then. You're not wrong.

[ffsm8]

Possibly 0 if it passes.

[fbhabbed]

This alone should have made the law incoherent and impossible to pass

[potato3732842]

To who? The politicians who will vote on it?

[NaomiLehman]

Should be taken to higher courts

[LeifCarrotson]

Not impossible for politicians!

[prox]

Lets all register as politicians then.

[Bombthecat]

Or they just delete the chats

[ciupicri]

Like the messages exchanged between EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla?

[belter]

They should have used S3 Object Lock for her...Since she had already a previous track record of deleting data. When she was the German Defence Minister during the Bundestag “consultants affair” inquiry, data/SMS on her official phones were wiped after they were requested as evidence.

And of course the fact that her husband was working for a Pfizer supplier, while she was sending private SMS to the Pfizer CEO, is of course an incredible coincidence.

And also the current NATO Secretary...

"Dutch PM has been deleting text messages daily for years" - https://nltimes.nl/2022/05/18/dutch-pm-deleting-text-message...

[vixen99]

How is it she's still in a job?

[holowoodman]

Plain old backroom deals. Same way she got the job.

The EU isn't a democracy, it is actually governed by backroom deals between member states' governments.

[grim_io]

I'll take my good old backroom deals EU over the shitcoin peddling US officials any day of the week.

[wkat4242]

Well yes of course but don't think this couldn't happen here either. A lot of countries like France or Germany are very close to falling to the same extreme right forces the US has.

[raxxorraxor]

I don't. The US has flaws, but the EU is like having an STD.

[HPsquared]

For everything else, there's Monarchy.

[46891283682]

EU propaganda really pays for itself if people still fall for this false dichotomy.

[grim_io]

I would say there is a much stronger incentive for anti EU propaganda nowadays.

Certain state level actors would love some more anti EU sentiments right now.

On the other side, who the hell would pay for pro EU propaganda?

[tehwebguy]

Yes, why would this one be exempt?

[rvnx]

National security. Period.

[dekken_]

The EU is not a nation.

Now, consider, why should this one be excempt.

[ExoticPearTree]

Considering that they destroyed those messages, I guess that most likely the EU paid way too much for the vaccines or Pfizer paid so much in kickbacks that if it ever got out it will lead to a lot of people being prosecuted.

[dekken_]

Oh yeah, lack of transparency is essentially evidence of criminal activity when it comes to governments.

[isolli]

Indeed, politicians should not be controlling us; we should be controlling them.

[theoreticalmal]

How do you propose a law that’s illegal?

[Longhanks]

Happens all the time, otherwise, there wouldn't be such a thing as "unconstitutional".

[lan321]

Goes against a higher law, such as the Constitution.

[boxed]

Welcome to Sweden. Public on day one.

[_zoltan_]

can you elaborate? this is news to me.

[diggan]

Guess this serves as a good introduction: https://www.government.se/the-government-offices/the-governm...

> All communication in the Government Offices is based on the core values of transparency, factualness and comprehensibility, relevance and topicality. Public access and oversight shall characterise all activities.

> The Government Offices' communication policy covers both internal and external communication.

Sweden is generally pretty good at transparency, both regarding representatives and everyone else. For example, given a full name, you can get a person's address, telephone number, what cars and businesses they own, and even what their salary is, for better and worse :)

[wkat4242]

Oh that's pretty much in the worse book for me brrr

[tmikaeld]

It really is the criminals paradise, thus the record amount of shootings and rapes.

[boxed]

Record amounts of shootings... for the nordics. Compared to the US it's a rounding error.

Anyway, that has to do with integration issues, not public data so you guys are way off topic.

[boxed]

And yet it has worked extremely well for us since 1766(!).

[wkat4242]

I just couldn't live in such a public society. Or such a restrictive one.