[ciupicri]

Like the messages exchanged between EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla?

[belter]

They should have used S3 Object Lock for her...Since she had already a previous track record of deleting data. When she was the German Defence Minister during the Bundestag “consultants affair” inquiry, data/SMS on her official phones were wiped after they were requested as evidence.

And of course the fact that her husband was working for a Pfizer supplier, while she was sending private SMS to the Pfizer CEO, is of course an incredible coincidence.

And also the current NATO Secretary...

"Dutch PM has been deleting text messages daily for years" - https://nltimes.nl/2022/05/18/dutch-pm-deleting-text-message...

[vixen99]

How is it she's still in a job?

[holowoodman]

Plain old backroom deals. Same way she got the job.

The EU isn't a democracy, it is actually governed by backroom deals between member states' governments.

[grim_io]

I'll take my good old backroom deals EU over the shitcoin peddling US officials any day of the week.

[wkat4242]

Well yes of course but don't think this couldn't happen here either. A lot of countries like France or Germany are very close to falling to the same extreme right forces the US has.

[raxxorraxor]

I don't. The US has flaws, but the EU is like having an STD.

[HPsquared]

For everything else, there's Monarchy.

[46891283682]

EU propaganda really pays for itself if people still fall for this false dichotomy.

[grim_io]

I would say there is a much stronger incentive for anti EU propaganda nowadays.

Certain state level actors would love some more anti EU sentiments right now.

On the other side, who the hell would pay for pro EU propaganda?

[nickslaughter02]

> Certain state level actors would love some more anti EU sentiments right now.

EU is great at creating anti EU sentiments. They don't need foreign actors. Chat Control is just one example.

[graemep]

> On the other side, who the hell would pay for pro EU propaganda?

The EU, countries governed by pro-EU governments.

> Certain state level actors would love some more anti EU sentiments right now.

Why? What means do they have to produce it?

[philipallstar]

> On the other side, who the hell would pay for pro EU propaganda?

No one - the EU gets its money from force: taxes on citizens and fines from companies created in more entrepreneurial environments than the EU can produce.

[tehwebguy]

Yes, why would this one be exempt?

[rvnx]

National security. Period.

[dekken_]

The EU is not a nation.

Now, consider, why should this one be excempt.

[ExoticPearTree]

Considering that they destroyed those messages, I guess that most likely the EU paid way too much for the vaccines or Pfizer paid so much in kickbacks that if it ever got out it will lead to a lot of people being prosecuted.

[dekken_]

Oh yeah, lack of transparency is essentially evidence of criminal activity when it comes to governments.

[rvnx]

Now it's defense procurements that are kept secret. Wouldn't be surprised if in year 2035 we discover that a lot of corruption happened there.

Foreign intelligence knows what's there, but local people don't.