[laurieg]

Like with all home automation, you should use it to solve problems you have, not problems you want to have.

Here are some ways I use security cameras:

Check if my colleagues are in the office or not (and if they are in the middle of a live recording). Check on my plants while I'm away. Check if there is a free parking space. Check if I left something at home or in the office.

I'm not really thinking about crime, even though they are called 'security cameras'.

[W3zzy]

I'm so happy those uses of camera's are illegal in the EU. Camera's at work can only used for safety. You could have other - less intrusive - systems in place for all tge other issues.

[gr3ml1n]

Isn't the entire EU essentially a panopticon of cameras?

[15155]

Panopticon for the State, not for you.

[jve]

You have to justify the use of storing (or publishing, don't remember) content that includes PII. You must register the use of cameras and specify how long and why you store those recordings. Which usually states: For security purposes. You must include (at least my country) a sticker that says particular area under surveillance.

When there is collective photographing at school for children, we as parents must consent with a signature... which is a little bit annoying.

Having camera at home/yard is no issue.

[dagw]

Having camera at home/yard is no issue

Only if the camera is angled in such a way that it only sees your property. A door bell camera that can also see the public road in front your house for example is technically not allowed, even if most people ignore that rule.

[alchemist1e9]

Just one of many bizarre European attitudes towards work and capitalism which are contributing to massive underperformance economically.

Why would anyone have any expectation of privacy at work other than in the toilet?

[graftak]

Because privacy is a basic human right. Europe still has some of those.

[alchemist1e9]

I don’t get it, you have privacy at home or outside work, why when someone is paying you to work for them there is an expectation of privacy? You don’t see how that is extremely counterproductive for capitalism and economic activity?

Just don’t come to work right? You can have all the privacy you want? Or don’t visit the business if you are the customer.

Please help me understand what the logic and justification is to regulate and control security camera use within private enterprises (with the obvious exception of toilets and changing rooms etc)?

[W3zzy]

My employee can intrude on my privacy when he had probable cause but only then. Otherwise it is illegal to collect personal data. I need mutual trust to be productieve and evaluation of my work should always be upfront and transparant.

Otherwise I'm puzzled by your claim of productivity. Especially since we are stalking about labour productivity.

Notice that the top tier of the list is populated by countries with strict privacy laws.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_labour_...

> “There is a fundamental shift in how nations approach economic output. Strong social policies and strategic investment in worker well-being are creating more productive economies than traditional long-hour work cultures. The financial sector remains a key driver of high productivity, but it’s the emphasis on work-life balance that distinguishes the leading economies."

https://businessday.ng/news/article/top-10-most-productive-c...

We're past the industrial revolutionaire for while. A happy pig is a fat pig, one could say :-)

[W3zzy]

I work from home half of the time. I have clear targets. Some I set for my team, some are set for me. If I reach or surpass my targets, why should I be spied on constantly?

[alchemist1e9]

This is about security cameras at work sites and businesses. What does this have to do with WFH?

However while we are on the topic I don’t see why governments should impose any restrictions on businesses using monitoring systems on their WFH technology systems as long as it is disclosed to the employees they may be monitored.

When you are paid by an employer your job is to do exactly what they want and try to do it well. Your relationship is voluntary (at will) between both parties and if you don’t like it then don’t work for them.