[Thorrez]

>most would consider to be a source of ridicule (4BR SFH in 2k sqft)

I don't think most people would consider it a source of ridicule. (BTW, you omitted 279sqft.) In all the places I see discussing it online, I see tons of people saying 2279 sqft is a normal or even large size for 4BR, and only 1 person saying it's small[1-6].

The average bedroom size in the US is 132 sqft. The average master bedroom size is 224 sqft[7]. Even if we go with 224, with 4 of those, that's 896 sqft used by bedrooms, and 2279-896 = 1383sqft for non-bedroom stuff. I don't see why that's so bad.

>BTW, you haven't made an argument about real estate differences. The smaller home might be a better deal.

chasebank described it has a "shithole". So I assumed the real estate was bad. If chasebank was describing a house on a super valuable piece of land, chasebank should have mentioned that. It would be an important piece of information that would completely undermine chasebank's point. It would be misleading for chasebank to leave out that information, so I assumed chasebank didn't do that. Anyway, the real estate of the one I linked to seemed fine to me.

[1] https://www.familyhomeplans.com/4-bed-3-bath-house-plans-hom...

[2] https://www.coohom.com/article/how-many-square-feet-in-a-4-b...

[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/HousingUK/comments/vq293z/after_gen...

[4] https://www.quora.com/How-many-square-feet-is-a-4-bedroom-ho...

[5] https://houseplanfloorplan.quora.com/How-big-is-a-typical-4-...

[6] https://www.coohom.com/article/how-many-square-feet-in-a-4-b...

[7] https://www.crddesignbuild.com/blog/average-bedroom-size/

[caminante]

Either you're acting in bad faith or have a language issue.

For the latter, isn't it odd how you cherrypick and dismiss?

1. Spuriously apply national averages (including a UK forum!!! LOL) to a way above average zip code

2. And conveniently dismiss another HNer's conclusion because they...didn't provide a fact needed for an argument that YOU are trying to make and could research yourself? This is unreal.

>"Yeah, even though I didn't ask, the defendent didn't tell me they were innocent or not, so I will dismiss further review and assume they're guilty."

[Thorrez]

I'm not cherrypicking. Those are all the top results that Google gave me. I didn't omit any.

You said "what most would consider to be a source of ridicule (4BR SFH in 2k sqft)". You didn't say that it would only be a source of ridicule in certain zip codes.

Whose conclusion am I dismissing? chasebank's? I think chasebank's conclusion is that housing is too expensive. I agree with chasebank there. I'm not dismissing that.

[sblocal123]

Going full pedant, the more pertinent issue with the house you posted upthread is that it's 8 miles from downtown and outside Santa Barbara city limits. No one in Santa Barbara would consider it a "Santa Barbara" house. Despite the zip code allowing use of "Santa Barbara" on the address, it's in "Noleta", the less expensive unincorporated suburban area between Goleta and Santa Barbara.

Shithole is probably overstating it, but $2.2m doesn't get you much in more expensive Santa Barbara neighborhoods. Here's a 3/1 1000sq foot house that sold for $2.2 in June that better represents what the parent comment was referring to:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2430-Mesa-School-Ln-Santa...

A 4BR 2k+ sqft house in any of the good neighborhoods in Santa Barbara ( Mesa, San Roque, Riviera, Mission Canyon, Samarkand) would easily be closer to $2.5-3 million.

For example: 1900sqft for $2.6: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2818-Valencia-Dr-Santa-Ba...

2100sqft for $2.7: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3117-Calle-Noguera-Santa-...

800sq ft for $1.6: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/512-E-Islay-St-Santa-Barb...

[Thorrez]

Thanks for the info! Yeah, I didn't realize the different neighborhoods.

That first one you linked to must be priced based on building something new there. The Zillow listing even has pictures of plans for a new house.

Here's a 2270sqft 3BR3B for $1.9M that I think is actually in Santa Barbara (looks like the edge of Riviera), although it doesn't really have a yard: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/533-Conejo-Rd-Santa-Barba...

[sblocal123]

Agreed that first link is priced on the lot being extra large, I intended to put in this one: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/307-La-Marina-Santa-Barba...

That Conejo rd listing is less expensive mostly due to fire/landslide risk and the elementary school district.

[caminante]

>didn't realize the different neighborhoods

How ironic that you now backtrack when someone else makes my point. You did no research, made a spurious claim, then doubled down.

[Thorrez]

Your original comment was "You're making his point. 4br in only 2k sqft? For 2M? Please..."

That's not the same point as sblocal123's point.

Regarding the real estate location point, yes, you and caminante made the same point. caminante made the point convincingly and you didn't. There's nothing ironic about me changing my mind when someone makes a point convincingly.