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by tempera 346 days ago
Normal summer weather is used to install anxiety in the minds of the populace, so they will easier accept future draconian measures.
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40 C is extremely high for Paris. Why lie about information that is easy to lookup? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extreme_temperatures_i...
Out of interest, how do you interpret that diagram?

Me I see a gradual increase since the 50’s, with the very latest year being very low (20 degrees) probably because the dataset has not yet been updated for this year.

How do you read it?

Yeah, can’t conclude anything about 2025. But it seems the temperatures are mostly stable over many decades, with large variations between each year.
It’s always entertaining that those warning of science being used to introduce tyrrany are gleefully embracing tyrrany in the next breath.
There is nothing normal about this, as you can easily verify by looking at recorded weather history.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. I’ve had these temperatures in summer as a child in the same location I am now.
Oh yes 2003, how about a 2003 every year?

I'd expect a bit more statistical knowledge here...

In my country we’re experiencing the first heatwave in more than 3 years..

Used to be every 2 years in my childhood.

Both the duration and average and maximum temperature are all lower now compared to my childhood.

Is that enough statistics for extreme temperatures not being that extreme compared to previously? At least in my country?

It would seem foolish to trust the temperature records from the same people who want to install draconian measures using temperatures as an excuse.
How do you define "the same people"? Everyone who publishes weather data?

What agenda do you think people have that are long dead?

If you distrust everything you can measure it yourself. I am still in youth and even I can see changes myself. There used to be snow in the winter and now it's rare for example. Yes that is weather not climate; I don't live long enough to see climate changes. But there are oil paintings from 300 years ago. Are these fake?

Genuine question: How do you know, that people who know climate change is made-up are trustworthy and don't have their own agenda?

I have no idea if they have their own agenda, but their ends (such as supporting private transportation and meat consumption) I support. Even if I didn’t trust them, and I don’t trust them either, the ends justify the means.
My God the radicalisation funnel produces some utter brain rot. Unsubstantiated accusations, slippery positions designed to distance your moral culpability in the consequences of your actions. Seriously, read yourself sometime.
The radicalisation of… check notes… being able of affording meat and a car.
Do you despise public transport as a concept or just the current subpar implementation?

I think climate research is orthogonal to any political agenda, i.e. opposing private transportation and meat consumption doesn't follow from accepting that the climate is getting warmer and the validity of political agendas has no effect on the authenticity of climate research data.

I don’t really care too much about what happens to public transportation as long as I’m not forced to use it, which is what they want to do.
What "draconian measures"? Planting trees and installing water fountains?
You know those draconian trees. That would be some very severe foliage.
Temperature is one of the easiest things to measure.

We know the effect of urban heat islands, stations sitting issues, mercury to thermistors upgrade transitions, time of observation bias, etc.

What we do with this data is a political situation, as the world is in a cooling cycle globally: https://www.climate.gov/media/16817

We have the technology to mitigate all of this, but not a critical baseline of education in the population to make the necessary sacrifices.