[1718627440]

How do you define "the same people"? Everyone who publishes weather data?

What agenda do you think people have that are long dead?

If you distrust everything you can measure it yourself. I am still in youth and even I can see changes myself. There used to be snow in the winter and now it's rare for example. Yes that is weather not climate; I don't live long enough to see climate changes. But there are oil paintings from 300 years ago. Are these fake?

Genuine question: How do you know, that people who know climate change is made-up are trustworthy and don't have their own agenda?

[mslansn]

I have no idea if they have their own agenda, but their ends (such as supporting private transportation and meat consumption) I support. Even if I didn’t trust them, and I don’t trust them either, the ends justify the means.

[moomin]

My God the radicalisation funnel produces some utter brain rot. Unsubstantiated accusations, slippery positions designed to distance your moral culpability in the consequences of your actions. Seriously, read yourself sometime.

[mslansn]

The radicalisation of… check notes… being able of affording meat and a car.

[tomhow]

> check notes

Please avoid snarky tropes like this on HN.

[1718627440]

Do you despise public transport as a concept or just the current subpar implementation?

I think climate research is orthogonal to any political agenda, i.e. opposing private transportation and meat consumption doesn't follow from accepting that the climate is getting warmer and the validity of political agendas has no effect on the authenticity of climate research data.

[mslansn]

I don’t really care too much about what happens to public transportation as long as I’m not forced to use it, which is what they want to do.

[1718627440]

So do you reject the theory that weather is getting warmer on average on its one or only when it is combined with a specific political agenda?

[AlecSchueler]

Weather analysts?