[nixosbestos]

Truly, don't bother. I've been watching this conversation play out for 10 years. I've watched it play out with systemd, udev, rust, Wayland.

Just ignore them. Their validation is meaningless. Their ignorance is mostly meaningless, too, for reasons that feel mean to type out.

[justinrubek]

I'm getting the sense that both sets of parties here have a strong opinion and that this isn't a real discussion because of that.

[gatlin]

Strong opinions don't make something not a discussion. Announcing to the room how aloof you are though does make you not very aloof.

[nixosbestos]

Yeah my strong opinion is that I have better hidpi support than any other platform, no tearing, ever, a better security model, the x devs have abandoned x11. They have accessibility (which I am completely sympathetic to, but is rarely the actual point) and a bunch of hand waving neck beard bullshit.

I have worked on DEs, I have committed to compositors. I know which side has more merit.