[scargrillo]

This breakdown hits hard because it’s not just about business models — it’s about trust.

Open source succeeded because it created shared public infrastructure. But hyperscalers turned it into extraction infrastructure: mine the code, skip the stewardship.

The result? We’ve confused “open” with “free-for-the-powerful.”

It’s time to stop pretending licenses are enough. This is about incentives, governance, and resilience. The next generation of “open” has to bake in counterpower — or it’s just a feeding trough for monopolies.

[palata]

Before moving from permissive licences to non-open-source licences (because they have exceptions for TooBigTech), an easy step would be to use copyleft licences, wouldn't it?

[KingMob]

Not necessarily. Amazon sells a hosted Grafana service, which is AGPL.

[palata]

That's wrong: they pay Grafana Labs to use it as proprietary, as noted in another comment:

https://lwn.net/Articles/1019686/#CommAnchor1019710

> Grafana's a great example of this. AWS and Azure _could_ have sold the unmodified AGPL Grafana as a service or published their modified versions, but instead, they both struck proprietary licensing and co-marketing agreements with Grafana Labs.

[mfitton]

Testing my LLM-detection abilities. Did you write this yourself? Or is this LLM produced?

The phrasings stick out to me as super GPT-like.

[Xss3]

The em dash is a sign