[hombre_fatal]

I don't think a project's core security concerns should be left up to my charity.

I get why they need the permission to implement their cutesy drag and drop interface.

But I'd like to hear why these apps can't continue to hide menu icons after you've revoked the permission. Ice and Bartender at least require you to grant it at all times last I looked a few months ago.

[hbn]

As far as I understand it works by grabbing screenshots of your menu bar and redrawing overtop of it. It can't do that if it doesn't have the permission to do screengrabs.

[victor106]

Interesting. do all these apps work the same way? Apple does not provide any API's to modify the menubar?

[hbn]

Unless we're just waiting on someone to figure out another genius workaround, that's the case, yes. Macs are not Linux, for better and for worse.

To be honest it seems crazy at this point an overflow for menu bar items isn't built into macOS, especially now that all their laptops have this notch that can hide menu bar items if you have too many. Plus it competes with space with the dropdown menu items on the left since if an app has too many they'll wrap to the other side of the notch.

[hombre_fatal]

I deserve the downvotes for my first line, heh.

Maybe I can redeem myself by clarifying that the real frustration here is with bad macOS UX, not people trying to hack around it. I barked up the wrong tree.