[jajko]

The changes happening in US are not going anywhere, and they haven't even properly started with them.

Nobody knows the future but one thing is clear and set in stone - trust has been broken. If you have any life or relationship experience, you know trust is always hard to build and easy to lose. Its extremely hard and lengthy to build again once it has been shattered (which it has been already).

Stab in the back is remembered for decades, spit in the face even more. Quadruple that for matters of national security.

[seper8]

We have a saying in Dutch. Trust leaves on horseback but comes back on foot.

[perks_12]

> trust has been broken

By what? Tariffs?

We have known about NSA spyops for more than a decade now, with actual impact on our tech. Nobody cares. But now that trump is in office, we suddenly have an issue with the US? Ridiculous.

[jajko]

No, by arbitrarily shutting down US military hardware on bipolar whims of a single person. You know, ie F'35s costing tens of billions becoming useless in real war very quickly. If a country can't protect its airspace its game over. Or by throwing whole Ukraine under the bus. Or by stating US won't protect NATO allies if they don't contribute 2,3,5% or whatever is the current number du jour. Or invading its closest allies... how fucked up is that, tell it to anybody a decade ago and you would get laughed at for being a conspiracy crank.

NSA findings are an afterthought in all this, we talk about existential threats with literal sworn enemy at our doors right now willing to capture, murder and steal all it can and stating it semi-constantly.

[palata]

> We have known about NSA spyops for more than a decade now, with actual impact on our tech. Nobody cares.

Nobody cares, because nobody really understands the consequences.

But now it's different. The US are threatening to invade and annex territories. Everybody understands what that means.