[perks_12]

> trust has been broken

By what? Tariffs?

We have known about NSA spyops for more than a decade now, with actual impact on our tech. Nobody cares. But now that trump is in office, we suddenly have an issue with the US? Ridiculous.

[jajko]

No, by arbitrarily shutting down US military hardware on bipolar whims of a single person. You know, ie F'35s costing tens of billions becoming useless in real war very quickly. If a country can't protect its airspace its game over. Or by throwing whole Ukraine under the bus. Or by stating US won't protect NATO allies if they don't contribute 2,3,5% or whatever is the current number du jour. Or invading its closest allies... how fucked up is that, tell it to anybody a decade ago and you would get laughed at for being a conspiracy crank.

NSA findings are an afterthought in all this, we talk about existential threats with literal sworn enemy at our doors right now willing to capture, murder and steal all it can and stating it semi-constantly.

[palata]

> We have known about NSA spyops for more than a decade now, with actual impact on our tech. Nobody cares.

Nobody cares, because nobody really understands the consequences.

But now it's different. The US are threatening to invade and annex territories. Everybody understands what that means.