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by precommunicator 460 days ago
Are there no much cheaper monthly/yearly tickets for commuters?
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For the MTA you cross a weekly threshold of 12 rides where rides after that are free: https://omny.info/fares

You max out paying $34 a week, or $17 if you qualify for reduced fare.

So that's not cheaper for someone who works 5 days a week and gets to their place of work with a single ride.
I work 5 days a week and get to work on a single ride.

I do take multiple other rides a day and in the weekend though, so I hit 12 rides pretty quickly, probably in around 4 days.

But it makes it free to use public transport on top of that: it encourages people to use it for more than commutes (improving traffic in turn), which makes sense because commutes are peak utilisation time, the rolling stock is under utilized at every other time.
Have you tried using the subway during rush hour to get home in NYC? If you’re going in the same general direction as everyone else, it was already packed long before congestion pricing. The MTA is 50 billion+ in debt, and it will cost billions more to add capacity over decades.
The subway fare includes the cost of energy to get there and parking.
That seems doubtful but possible since fares of public transit tend to run at a loss. Most public transit just offloaded the cost on poor who must drive to less accessible and less wealthy unserviced areas as collected tax expenditures from their checks.
Your mind is going to be blown when you find out how much it costs to own and operate a car, not to mention how much it costs in terms of time to commute back and forth.
Sure, you have to pay for public road parasitism by pedestrian, public transit on roads funded partially by fuel taxes, and heavy road destroying vehicles. Not that I blame them, they're taking advantage of incentives offered. Who wouldn't want to bike on a road funded by car owners and then buy goods transported by 18 wheelers that end up destroying the road disproportionately to the point it is small passenger cars that get the biggest squeeze.

It's not dumb to not want to be the sucker, the urban yuppies on transit routes are great at squeezing the working class that way.

The benefit is not just "cheaper" it's more safety, faster commutes, better infrastructure investments and tax revenue.
Of course there are - an unlimited metro card is $132. the person you're responding to is nuts - no one that commutes from Bronx to downtown is paying per swipe.
OMNI caps it, so the most you can pay is $136 per month and that is the worst case scenario. I don't think a difference of $4 is nuts.
Also Metrocards are not going to be printed anymore, I'm assuming that includes the unlimited ones, probably just shifts over to OMNY.
A 4 zone monthly ticket in London is like $300 for comparison. 6 zones is $360!
London is 3 times the size of Manhattan, Bronx, Queens and Brooklyn combined, and Zone 6 is even larger than that.

I assume an "unlimited metro card" also includes unlimited buses too?

Yes, it includes local buses. It also includes the Staten Island Railway, so it doesn't make sense to exclude an entire NYC borough from land size comparisons.
I wasn't sure and hedged on a 4 zone.

A 2 zone is $220. I think in size that's roughly comparable?

And in my experience people who mostly take the tube rarely make use of buses. They'll walk or take the tube

So assuming two rides in each working day that's still $6.42 per day
That's a bad assumption, since NYC residents tend to use the subway for non-work-related travel as well.
Assuming you don't take any non-work rides, ever.
As mentioned, you hop on a train to do anything/everything. In a single weekend you might take 10 rides.

Edit: well if you live in a part of the city that has good coverage - up in the Bronx it's not so great naturally so I wouldn't be surprised if those people didn't get as much value out of a monthly card.

But those people can still use local buses to get around on the exact same pass. So they could feasibly hit the cap anyways.
true!