[ty6853]

Sure, you have to pay for public road parasitism by pedestrian, public transit on roads funded partially by fuel taxes, and heavy road destroying vehicles. Not that I blame them, they're taking advantage of incentives offered. Who wouldn't want to bike on a road funded by car owners and then buy goods transported by 18 wheelers that end up destroying the road disproportionately to the point it is small passenger cars that get the biggest squeeze.

It's not dumb to not want to be the sucker, the urban yuppies on transit routes are great at squeezing the working class that way.

[stouset]

Roads are overwhelmingly funded by property taxes. Try again.

[ty6853]

Property taxes are regressive tax, analogous but not equal to the way sales tax is, try again.

[stouset]

Whether or not they're regressive, they are the primary means of funding the roads. Drivers don't fund roads, everyone does.

[ty6853]

Which means again it's an offloading from poor working class who tend to live in shittier transit access areas where a car (and its road taxes) is more necessary, regressively upwards. Public transit as implemented in US is a regressive middle class welfare program.

[stouset]

Which has precisely fuck-all to do with the point you were originally trying to make. If you want to now start arguing that that roads themselves are a regressive tax on the poor, then you should be triply in favor of public transportation options.

> shittier transit access areas

Public transit advocates literally want to expand public transit to cover more and more of these areas. We also want to build more housing in dense areas, so it is effectively cheaper to live there.

The answer is not throwing our hands up in the air and forcing the poor to live further and further away from their jobs and economic centers, foisting upon them the exorbitant expense of roads, cars, fuel, and time spent commuting.

[ty6853]

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/state-infrastructur...

Your premise is false to begin with. In NY the roads are 60% funded by use taxes like fuel taxes, not majority property tax. It's hard to take your argument with much weight until it sits on the slightest vestige of factual foundation, which seems missing.

I'm not against mass transit, I'm saying maybe it should be privatized so the users bear the cost rather than shifting it on the poor. To expand on the status quo or make it even more 'public' is insanity.