[theoryofx]

This is the logical conclusion of companies with undifferentiated crapware products that compete using aggressive sales teams.

Sales driven companies are all corrupt and corrupting. This kind of espionage is common, as is outright bribery of buyers.

[gkoberger]

I can't believe I'm about to defend a HR payroll systems.... but I wouldn't call Rippling or Deel "crapware". We use both; they're boring but necessary products, and they do their job well.

[Edit: Added Deel, since we use both! Also hello to the Rippling salesperson who is reading this and is about to reach out to me to convince us to switch.]

[LoganDark]

I think it's Deel that they're calling crapware, because they have to resort to such practices as these

[gkoberger]

We use Deel, too, and it's not "crap" either. It's boring but that's somewhat the point... how "differentiated" can a payroll system get?

(Also, it's hard to call Deel undifferentiated since they were first to market on this product.)

[groby_b]

If you have a reasonably competent sales team, you don't need "spying", you just ask the customers about their experience with the competitor.

Any reasonably company both shops around and is happy to throw one provider under any number of buses if it gets them a better deal with another provider.

[The_Blade]

never spy on your competition using your company email

hilarity ensues